^ which is why people should not make conclusion that people from option 1 2 3 4 ALL simply want em.

^ which is why I am saying option 3 is best for both.

Why do you think that options 1 2 3 4 only represent em? You see quality of zero atm? I see better quality in AP games and lesser quality in AREM games but a bit faster paced games. I do think that newbs who are learning the game and have limited hero choices should play AP not APEM. Those who have ...

I THINK whatever happens at the end, we can ALL agree that 6.83 is the worst update yet. Lets all just keep 6.81 and WAIT until icefrog fixes all the problems in 6.83, THEN we can update. Thanks What do you not like about it? No version is perfect which is why dota has been updating since years ago...

More choices and options is not always the best. Eliminating minor options and centralizing playerbase should be best for this community.

Quality > Quantity.

Current AP + AREM is a good mix for both sides imo.

^ He doesnt understand gold mechanics at all. Therefore, Q_Q mode is on. You are posting a game that is not balanced due to leavers to make your point? It is hilarious to read people complaining about this saying they have moved on to dota void, yet continue to post here. Honestly, w/e the mode ENT ...