Why do titans not like to siege?

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby PLus » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:53 am

TimmyTheTauren wrote:
PLus wrote:If you are not retarded you should be able to get a base up before a pro titan is able to kill you, hence forcing him to siege.
Problem solved.
That's not true at all. A good titan will kill the pubs and subsequently kill your lumber base. Leaving you with 3k lum and a tit with minis. You become the retard if you try to base with that.

Happens if I play you all the time. Random loc or some shit and you've already killed four pubs in 5 min and sent the first mini to my lumber base, leaving me with like 3k lum and no hope of basing.

The only way around this is op baser eb with 1-3 decent support(s) at euro.

You can still base with 3k, albeit it's a shitty base. But, still a base nonetheless. Or consider early basing, have a base up within a minute of the titan's spawn.
I think he just wants the satisfaction of destroying a base.

If you want a moderately challenging base to siege, play with some euros, they will doubtlessly (with near 100 percent certainty) crowd into euro base.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby jew » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:22 am

PLus wrote:If you want a moderately challenging base to siege, play with some euros, they will doubtlessly (with near 100 percent certainty) crowd into euro base.


ye you can watch some replays of plus getting owned while sieging for 50 minutes

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby PLus » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:04 am

jew wrote:
PLus wrote:If you want a moderately challenging base to siege, play with some euros, they will doubtlessly (with near 100 percent certainty) crowd into euro base.


ye you can watch some replays of plus getting owned while sieging for 50 minutes

I'm sure I have at least 3 replays of you dying within a minute as sat.
I also have some replays of euro sixtuple base that I've broken if you are interested.
But please, do share all these replays of me getting raped at 50 minutes, I usually suicide before then if it seems like there's too big of a crowd in euro.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Pongu » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:00 am

Why are you Talking like if the euros were the only one basing in that spot ? Lol Americans and especially the ones in you'Re clan are doing the same things , dat bear so racist

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Burn » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:21 pm

I don't think I've ever seen a sextruple East basing at Euro. Some jews like Plus tnfu or Timmy will always run out and get themselves killed.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Stealer » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:51 pm

Timmy's already dead by that point.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby PLus » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Pongu wrote:Why are you Talking like if the euros were the only one basing in that spot ? Lol Americans and especially the ones in you'Re clan are doing the same things , dat bear so racist

At least we don't raise the white flag and surrender when the going gets tough.

I'm getting tired of how every single game people just crowd into that base, sure east players base there occasionally but we also have a lot of fun games where we don't base and harass the titan or base elsewhere. But, literally every game that I have played with 2 or more euros has resulted in euro base afk. There's a reason it's that it is called euro base.

If I go one game where euros don't base euro, I'll print a screen shot from the game and frame it.

On another note, I've never been in a situation where g2l has saved me, if you have enough gold to g2l excessively then the titan is shit and you've won anyways.
If you have just barely enough gold you'll probably spend it on a merchant or arc for upgrades.

The only thing g2l is useful for is farming lumber for upgrades as a supportive class or basing in late game.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby jew » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:33 pm

PLus wrote:we also have a lot of fun games where we don't base and harass the titan or base elsewhere.


How bad does the titan have to be for you to do that? I think everyone harasses the titan/bases elsewhere if it is a "fun game"

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Metall-Drago » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:35 pm

Winning is fun.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby TimmyTheTauren » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:27 am

Can someone teech me how to pick rad every game? Stealer mayb?
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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Burn » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:16 am

TimmyTheTauren wrote:Can someone teech me how to pick rad every game? Stealer mayb?
How to win every game as builder and not die like Timmy:

- Pick Draenei or Demo. Every time. You'll be invulnerable.

- Buy HP ups, according to titan's attack damage and how much gold you're getting. If you are getting an abundance in gold, then just buy HP ups. You'll be happy when you do a Timmy and not watch mid for TP when golding, or get ward blocked like a Timmy. With HP ups, you can fuck around all you want like Timmy does, except that extra 100 or 200 HP will help a shit-tonne. Gold is for noobs who afk in bases anyway, 45G (or 75G for Tauren / 70G for Mag) is all you need for easy lumber feeding and megas. Any extra gold will basically be useless. That extra HP will be helpful for not getting bounce nuked as well.

- Buy shitloads of TPs. They're OP. As hell. Seriously. Stop being a greedy Jew and start buying TPs. Buy an early turtle scale on every builder (better if someone else buys it for you if you're a baser).

- Always play with one or more mates, and always double or triple base. You don't want to be caught with your pants down. Don't do a TNFU and feed your solo bases in in-houses. What you want to do is base at OP fucking spots when you have to, because if you are basing at a shitty spot, then that means you don't need to base in the first place and titan is fucking trash anyway, so just don't base, because basing is for noobs, and others will do that for you. Just be nice and ask for a merchant/ARC spot and they'll probably give it to you.

Source: Have been doing a Timmy since the dawn of time. Stopped being a greedy Jew and started playing more safe.

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PLus wrote:we also have a lot of fun games where we don't base and harass the titan or base elsewhere.
How bad does the titan have to be for you to do that?
The average pub titan level...? Like I said, one shouldn't be AFK basing, unless they really have to. You can generally do perfectly fine without AFK hiding in a base even against most pub stompers just with TPs and a little sheep tag skill. Plus. has a good play-for-fun play-style; AFK basing is for noobs, and is cancer for decent players to be doing in public games. It's probably why people quit Island Defense, because they're always fucking AFK-ing in bases and not having the fun you can obtain by being outside a base. The only reason a decent player should base and AFK in it is if there is either far too many minions to get gold, too lazy to build a lumber base, or need space for an ARC/Merchant.

The problem isn't basing, the problem is just staying in the base and doing shit-all for another 30 minutes.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby TimmyTheTauren » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:17 am

Very insightful Burn, real guide is below:

1) Random

2) Afk while golding

3) Die

4) Come back

5) Get flamed
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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Burn » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:27 am

TimmyTheTauren wrote:Very insightful Burn, real guide is below:

1) Random

2) Afk while golding

3) Die

4) Come back

5) Get flamed
See, your guide is how to be a Timmy. My one is to how not to be like Timmy. It's pretty clear that there's a difference between our taste in "real" guides.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby Stealer » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:03 am

TimmyTheTauren wrote:Can someone teech me how to pick rad every game? Stealer mayb?


Iirc I picked Draenei in those games you kept first blooding.
Radio can't op worker block as easily.


G2L isn't a problem and lumber trading has only been nerfed since inception. It's purely a player base thing as seiging is boring and is significantly more taxing than giving up.

With sieging you have to apply lumber pressure as well as stop rewalling and beware of the mini at middle being ganked.

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Re: Why do titans not like to siege?

Postby narbtit » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:15 pm

Cambrioleuse wrote:G2L isn't a problem and lumber trading has only been nerfed since inception. It's purely a player base thing as seiging is boring and is significantly more taxing than giving up.


Also I see titans giving up too quickly. They will attack euro with 3 minis, kill 2 walls and give up. Yes maybe because sieging is harder than giving up. It's like they need just the right balance of power to feel like they can almost kill the base before they siege for any significant duration.


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