Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby narbtit » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:36 pm

The problem with huntress was her horrible scaling. Two minis no gold early game, gg for huntress. Dryad hunter on the other hand can still take the nukes and kill healing wards which is amazing. Even continuous attack tit for a while taking nukes. AND she doesn't take up a freaking lane.
Meanwhile huntress 1) blocks 2) dies 3)no gold for reveal invis, which was one of her best early game abilities 4) bad walls 5) hunter feeds 30g, the list goes on.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby ShadowZz » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:35 pm

Why is huntress being compared to a basers' hunter?
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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Luna » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:54 pm

they are all lame
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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby n3w_3ra » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:58 pm

arachnid was a very unique builder most people just didnt realize how OP he really was. You could have an entire base setup and still have 100% lumber income. Just simply wait until titan is coming to your base and then up all egg sacs to towers, EZ.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby TimmyTheTauren » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:53 am

That's funny, did I just hear "OP" and "arachnid" in the same sentence?
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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Merex » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:14 am

I vouch for the Arachnid top hat edition.
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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Burn » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:02 am

Arachnid > Gnoll/Murloc/Makrura before GP.

Arachnid is an early/mid game staller/baser. His specialty is being nuisance to titan by wall walking around him in a circle and using slow (basically a net) to save team-mates, and panic to run around titan in a perfect square.

Arachnid's super towers are better than Gnoll towers, at a 10 wood cost. His DPS is surely better than Gnoll/murloc/mak's towers, and also has a very respectable tower attack speed, but most of all, 800 range towers. He is one of the best double basers out there with decent DPS + Slow + 800 range, surely much better than Gnoll (before GP), and after GP it's usually GG with gnoll trackers and lumber pool anyway.

In 3.0.9d, Troll + Arachnid was probably the best pre-GP combos out there. People don't understand how good arachnid is because of his 35-35 towers, but they are actually legit, because the attack speed on arachnid towers are decent.

Question about uniqueness?

1) Make Arachnid towers do a little bit of stackable DPS each with a sticky web skill which slows the titan and does a little DPS which costs no mana and a low-ish cooldown and zero cast time which amounts to the equivalent of 35 piercing damage. Also, make it automatically autocast.

Balances:

1) With arach ARC, give the option to improve walls to 650HP, and pop out a net that nets units for 0.1 seconds in a 300 AoE when it is killed. This includes denies too, which will allow Arach to deny a wall to cancel titan's TP stick and other channeling skills like titan's nuke.
2) Give his hunter slow on hit which costs 500 wood in RC.
3) Make his (X) web into a net, which cancels TP sticks.

TL;DR 800 range, slow + decent DPS makes arachnid towers one of the best super towers in the entire game. If we are talking about pure solo bases, Arachnid bases are stronger than:

Now, I don't know the exact DPS of arachnid comared to other builders, but just due to experience, the super towers is around the same DPS as radioactive/Gnoll. But Arachnid solo basers are stronger than these buidler solo basers with no gold:

/ Troll (700 range and costs too much wood/food / no slow)
/ Radio (700 range / no slow) / Nature (700 range / no slow)
/ Murloc (700 range and less DPS / no slow)
/ Gnoll (700 range and less DPS)
/ Makrura (less DPS / no slow)
/ Faerie with 30 super towers (700 range / no slow - now this is debatable, faerie bases are really strong if placed well, like in 3.0.9d Eurobase)
/ Panda (Even demo wall bases are stronger than these bases)

Not to mention that he is also a wall walker which makes him one of the best re-wallers in the game without gold, excluding Mak/Faerie/Demo (debatable Tauren/Mag)

Double basing, on the other hand, he is one of the best double basers in the game due to his high range, very good re-waller, above average DPS, and slowing poison.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Haunt » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:04 am

Really? Awesome solo baser?

Guess I just suck then, arach is pretty much the only baser I have not won a solo game. That's how good it is.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Burn » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:08 am

Well, he's not an awesome solo baser, most other basers are better at solo basing (with the exception of troll/radio/murloc/gnoll/makrura/panda/faerie since they are terrible solo basers), but he's one of the best double basers out there.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Lynx » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:15 am

Haunt wrote:Really? Awesome solo baser?

Guess I just suck then, arach is pretty much the only baser I have not won a solo game. That's how good it is.

lol just worker block if the towers are shit

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby Burn » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:24 am

Yeah, Arach is one of the best worker blockers out there since he needs to build shitloads of shelters everywhere to make them into future towers anyway.

The shelters also serve as temporary walls sending out workers.

The only downside is Bubonicus, who can consume corpse your worker feed and turn it into a nuke/heal.

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Re: Where is Huntress, Panda and the Spider Builder?

Postby kevin123 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:18 am

Neco Made Mrs. Booby Disappear ):
Neco Sliced Panda and turned into three ):
Neco Sprayed on the Spider ):


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