Bot left shitbase

[Burn]

People misunderstand my topic. My whole point is that Eurobase is better for space, and Skybase is better for walling/DPS.

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[Lynx]

of course base is bad if you wall it like a shitter

[Burn]

It's all shit walling. If you want to base a base by its worth without special towering or walling, you have to imagine the base as a jump-base.

Bot left is a shit jump base because most towers don't reach all the walls, especially the wing towers. It is also easy to camp minions close to the wall spots, which makes the base hard to re-wall.

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[ShadowZz]

Pick Makrura or Murloc, fixed lol.

[Burn]

Makrura or Murloc would still do better in Eurobase.

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[1337hamburger]

At first I really disliked the new base, but the more time goes on the more it grows on me.
Not every base can be in the top 5 best.

[Burn]

It doesn't matter if it is not the best, that's not the point of the topic. The main point is that there are better bases to EB at, and if you want to carry elo, then you really shouldn't base there. Same with baybase. It's a really good base, but there are better bases.

I don't want it to be the trend to base at shit-bases like baybase and bot left in inhouses and feed and ruin inhouse because of basing at a shit-base.

The main point of the topic is that the base is not good as most "decent" players think it is.

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[Stealer]

Bay base is bottom middle?
Wtf is wrong with it, you can fit like 60 towers. It been working super well for carrying pubs as dryad.
If you arc on the right side then you can have refugees sit in back left fairly unnukable.

The strength of a base is generally more dependent on how much gold/lumber went into it anyways. You could full super vag and still get rekt by a titan mostly because you didn't have any megas. If the "reason" you lost is because you went bot left instead of vag you probably had a fed titan and not feeding the titan should be the takeaway not base in a better location.

Bot left is also a mile away from mound so it really shouldn't be the best base.

[Burn]

I'm not saying that bot left should be nerfed, I completely agree that bot left is a mile away from mound and it shouldn't be the best base.

Bay base is shit because there's no space to stand unless want to be bounced by your support, or you don't have 150/150 food. It's great for solo basing, but with supports space is an issue, and bounce nuke is also an issue.

And no, the strength of a base is normally dependent on the builder and base spot in most games, it's full supers overtowered versus fed titan who fed off a few shitbases. Numerous times I have seen bot left get broken because they were too ignorant to base at euro, top right, top left, baybase, fountain base, or any of the top tier bases for tower/wall ratio.

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[wastedlandering]

Bay is a really good base for certain builders. Builders who seed (rad, nat) or have high food count (troll, dryad, goblin) are good here, and space/bouncing is not an issue even when double basing. The only thing bay lacks is you cannot have full food sources with 2 rcs and 2 arcs (and forget adding a merchant on top). So yes, if you are a makrura, murloc, ogre, etc etc, you would be better off at Euro. Euro just has more space, and a better nuke safe zone. Bay is relatively safe, and honestly probably a top 3 base for some builders (especially solo basing, it is very very strong for any builder). There are better places to db though, and in an inhouse bay probably should not be used unless you have a good builder combo for it.

Bot left really is a shitbase though. Honestly its super easy to camp with titan, and if you just siege and hug the top, unless it is a mur/mak mega base, you will outrange a bunch of towers and break pretty easily. Also, with 2 lanes of walls, it is expensive to base here and expensive/hard to rewall, and you can't wb as effectively. It really needs a northern wing for like 6-8 towers to stop easy camping and have more damage against titans who are close to breaking and outrange the 3 mile long wing. I've seen seacow base here a bunch, and it does pretty good, but is definitely not in the top half of bases. I don't think it's the worst base, espeically because of the huge safezone in it, but when I'm titan, I'm happy to see people base here because it is an easy break + farm. A northern wing or more space for support structures could make this base pretty damn strong though, especially for pub carrying with lots of refugees.

[Stealer]

Tbh the idea of buffing any of the edge bases seems silly to me. You're welcome to make a tier list of bases but some of the middle ones def need some buffs/better analysis before bot left becomes the new euro.

Seeing somebody base bot left has a lot less effect on making me think the game is lost than when a pub murloc makes a full super base.

[ShadowZz]

Tbh there are at least 3 other bases that are trash too and no one seems to care about those lol (mid left for example).

[Burn]

There are loads of tower base spots I'm not going to mention because no-one cares and it doesn't matter, because we all know it's shit. There's no controversy with it.

I don't think buffing bot left is a smart idea, it's still a less commonly pearled base spot. Hell, I pearl baybase more than I pearl bot left, because I know I can eat all the builders alive in the base.

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[Faldt]

I pearl baybase more than I pearl bot left, because I know I can eat all the builders alive in the base.

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Try me ^^

Baybase ftw

[Burn]

I was saying bot left is trash, baybase is actually feasibly strong.

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