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Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:40 pm
by narbtit
I've always seen good trolls base with someone else. Troll will tower up the first two layers then let a higher range builder tower more behind.

I've always found it difficult to get enough lumber to outrace the titan, then solo base with troll. And troll bases don't seem good late game.

Especially basing right above mound at the sky base, it seems like there just isn't enough dps with him, and thats one of the most effective troll bases to troll titan with and my favourite base.

I wish he had a lumber boost or something so that it would be easier to solo with him because I like the idea of a smaller troll base, and make it possible to be solo with troll or maybe a waller too, but not require a second builder to tower.

Basically I either want troll to be more effective or I want a good builder to base at sky base with.

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:07 pm
by aRt)Y
tl;dr: "Can troll solo base?" No.

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:56 pm
by Metall-Drago
Narbtit makes all his legend ebs work, no?

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:29 am
by TooNoobForU
For troll to do late game he has to have atleast 40k wood.... !!! cause you know titan will be lvl 9+ and all these op items and stuff !!!!!!

Troll can solo base BUT, OH yes theres a BUT haha BUT BUT can you handle him? :)

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:24 am
by Burn
Maybe when he gets 5 stun towers for perma-stun.

-Burn

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:51 pm
by PonguLePro
When I look at troll I see a mix of things. Some of the most memorable games I've played in, in the later parts, were spent hiding in troll bases. It is one of my favorite builders, mainly because tower-wise it is a minimalist, it has a very fun stunning ultimate tower, and because of the wonderful thwap sound the bolts make when they hit the titan.

However, Troll is not all it used to be. Or rather, it is exactly what it used to be, while it seems that some builders make it completely obsolete *cough* Dryad *cough*

I find that Troll can be a viable solo towerer, but rarely can they also be their own support.

When it comes down to it, I usually end up basing with 16k wood, about halfway through the 30 minute marker. If the titan is good and I'm feeling pressure, I tend to g2l even before I have merchant gold, which may be a poor choice but it assures that I will get enough wood for all supers by the time he gets to sieging.

I'd say he's a mid-late game builder, and yes he can solo base but it is often unwise.

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:28 pm
by aRt)Y
wat - 16K for troll?

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:43 pm
by PonguLePro
aRt)Y wrote:wat - 16K for troll?


For ~15 towers, that's how much wood I think I go for.

What do you do?

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:51 pm
by TooNoobForU
PonguLePro wrote:
aRt)Y wrote:wat - 16K for troll?


For ~15 towers, that's how much wood I think I go for.

What do you do?



for 15 towers?

add them up!

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:25 pm
by PonguLePro
TooNoobForU wrote:
PonguLePro wrote:
aRt)Y wrote:wat - 16K for troll?


For ~15 towers, that's how much wood I think I go for.

What do you do?



for 15 towers?

add them up!


How2math

Wide entrance or narrow, deep walls or shallow, it all depends on the base man.

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:36 pm
by aRt)Y
PonguLePro wrote:it all depends on the base man.

15K wood with troll for any base is low.

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:08 pm
by PonguLePro
aRt)Y wrote:
PonguLePro wrote:it all depends on the base man.

15K wood with troll for any base is low.


How many towers do you tend to build?

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:44 pm
by narbtit
k well i think troll would be viable sky base, if i had a mag or supporter

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:40 am
by MuffinMan
Narbtit are you retarded?
Sky base is the one of the worst bases ever, possibly the worst. There is a high risk for nuke bounce that either you, your workers, or your supporter would suffer from. Any decent titan can destroy that base with 2 minis and a pearl/floaty eye. It was pointed out earlier that troll is best used to db with. Just db with a builder who has higher range, and you obviously need to tower the front.
TL;DR:
1)Sky base sucks
2)Narbtit sucks
3)Just db for easy win

Re: Is troll late game? Can troll solo base?

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:16 pm
by narbtit
nevermind i just realized trolls megas only do 80 dmg, thought htye did 100

drayds do 85