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There are many popular basers, and among the most popular are Panda and Makrura...
The problem is is that aren't those bases really weak?
At first glance, you see a euro base clogged up with Mak towers and Panda towers, and you think "Oh crap I can't break that"
However, I discovered that those bases are actually quite weak...
Whenever I go Titan, I used to target the base with the fewest upgraded towers, now however, the first base I go for is the Makrura base. All I needed was 2 minis, life essence, and titanic wards, and any Makrura base with 45+ super towers was easily breakable. I couldn't say the same about full super Murloc Arach Morphling or even Gnoll bases.
Is it me or is Makrura too weak? Should they be buffed? Do they need more damage or more range? My Makrura bases are always more than strong enough to repel most Titans. Their supers are only 30 damage and 800 range, and that is easily trumped by Draenie's towers which are 45 damage and 800 range. Their megas are 45 damage and 1050 range, but that is easily trumped by Murloc's 60 damage and 1000 range.
We all know Panda is terrible, storm spires suck with their lack of speed, and volcanoes are absolute trash, just like Tauren towers, and those are easy cakewalks.

If you plan to base with murloc or mak, you should have the gold and lumb for mega towers + adv update or they are useless.

Same goes for panda. I do not really like him. Volcs costs 10K wood (and aren't even any better without any ups) and his normal towers are even more useless than murloc's.

On the third or fourth spot probably comes troll.


I read about some buffs murloc is gonna get in the new version (dat dream) - everyone knows some builders need a change.

any builder with low damage, high attack speed towers is hurt more by shield of fate: mak and arach for starters
mak and arach also don't have ward killers

Horrible basers (ordered from bearable to panda):
Morph
Tauren
Troll
Nat
Murloc
Arach
Sat
Mag
Huntress
Fucking Panda

P.s. Stop hating on mak, it's a decent baser. Has great lumber harvesting capabilities, low cost tower upgrades, most viable long range towers in the game.

i aint hatin on mak
i still choose mak a lot but i find mak bases one of the easiest to kill
how is morph weak at all?
its got average damage average range and average speed
+ if the main worker has upgrades the base is like impossible

Germaphobe wrote:i aint hatin on mak
i still choose mak a lot but i find mak bases one of the easiest to kill
how is morph weak at all?
its got average damage average range and average speed
+ if the main worker has upgrades the base is like impossible

It's just where I started my list at he's about 6th best.

Mak is actually a good builder imo

You're talking about solo basers though. Double basing with generally any builder at Eurobase is completely fine.

-Burn

PLus wrote:Horrible basers (ordered from bearable to panda):
Morph
Tauren
Troll
Nat
Murloc
Arach
Sat
Mag
Huntress
Fucking Panda

P.s. Stop hating on mak, it's a decent baser. Has great lumber harvesting capabilities, low cost tower upgrades, most viable long range towers in the game.

Troll is the weakest. Lumber collection rate sucks, and towers are too expensive. Murloc is weak early, you need fireballs. Nat needs aura towers and megas.

Panda seems ok if you get spires, I mean full spires. You ever fill euro with spires? it herts.

taling wrote:

PLus wrote:Horrible basers (ordered from bearable to panda):
Morph
Tauren
Troll
Nat
Murloc
Arach
Sat
Mag
Huntress
Fucking Panda

P.s. Stop hating on mak, it's a decent baser. Has great lumber harvesting capabilities, low cost tower upgrades, most viable long range towers in the game.

Troll is the weakest. Lumber collection rate sucks, and towers are too expensive. Murloc is weak early, you need fireballs. Nat needs aura towers and megas.

Panda seems ok if you get spires, I mean full spires. You ever fill euro with spires? it herts.

Filling euro with spires, would take 100k+ lumber hence panda is worthless.

PLus wrote:

taling wrote:

PLus wrote:Horrible basers (ordered from bearable to panda):
Morph
Tauren
Troll
Nat
Murloc
Arach
Sat
Mag
Huntress
Fucking Panda

P.s. Stop hating on mak, it's a decent baser. Has great lumber harvesting capabilities, low cost tower upgrades, most viable long range towers in the game.

Troll is the weakest. Lumber collection rate sucks, and towers are too expensive. Murloc is weak early, you need fireballs. Nat needs aura towers and megas.

Panda seems ok if you get spires, I mean full spires. You ever fill euro with spires? it herts.

Filling euro with spires, would take 100k+ lumber hence panda is worthless.

100k? 2k+ lumber per tower?
o.o

troll is bad and irrelevant
panda too
nature as well
morph takes long time to put up base, not anything special

jew wrote:
100k? 2k+ lumber per tower?
o.o

1k (950 actually) per tower (euro probably fits around 100 towers, so 100k right there)
8k+ for upgrades
5k+ Boxes (Would have at least 2 by this point)
7k + Walls
10k misc (by this point in the game you've probably used at least 10k lumber if you are really conservative)

Would probably take upwards of 3 hours.

PLus wrote:

jew wrote:Would probably take upwards of 3 hours.

Lolwut.

-Burn

I'm surprised that people are saying there are basers stronger than arachnid.
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Burn wrote:

PLus wrote:

jew wrote:Would probably take upwards of 3 hours.

Lolwut.

-Burn

Dat quote.[/spoiler]