definition of smurfing and trolling

[Tascar]

Trolling: Deliberately trying to provoke or annoy other people without any type of constructive contribution.

Ex: Pink picks Furion, teleports to enemy base and feeds over and over again.

Smurfing: Highly skilled player that either

1. Joins a low skill level (inappropriately to your own skill level) bracket to play.

Example: I buy a new copy of Starcraft 2 and start playing bronze level players

2. Creates a fresh username (Frozen Throne) misleading other players to think that they are new as well.

Example: I make a new name (georgeobamabush) and join a dota game (auto balanced or not)

However smurfs often work secretly with other members on their team:

Example:

Ithinkimgoodbutireallysuck joins game with 1800+ elo followed by 2 smurf friends:
1. dollarquarternickel
2. pennydimefiver

each with fresh records and about 1000 elo.

In this case, the smurfers are indirectly trolling the other team and the elo system because the win/loss calculations for elo gain/loss are skewed by the smurfers.

[VirusHunter]

you know what the problem with smurfers is? when you have your friend on his smurf account on the other team play bad and you get the win.. i cant stand this and its so hard to prove. w/o them actually admitting it or giving you context to go off of.

[supersexyy]

Thats not what smurfing is noob

[Tascar]

you know what the problem with smurfers is? when you have your friend on his smurf account on the other team play bad and you get the win.. i cant stand this and its so hard to prove. w/o them actually admitting it or giving you context to go off of.

And that would be a case of smurfing combined with trolling.

[Arcane-Razor]

virus is talking about the other team (lets say sentinel) planting a "noob" on the other team (lets say scourge) to purposely either feed or just play bad. As such this person would use a smurf account to hide his actual stats and not ruin his real accounts stats either. So what he is saying is correct.

[NutzSucksHard]

I don't call that a smurf, but a Booster.

[Karver]

"Smurfing" Is a High skill player making a low level account/new account to play against low skilled players, to 'stomp' them.

Smurfing On the enemy team to Feed IS "Boosting". Its done everywhere, every game, and for obvious reasons its hard to detect. (Aside from same IPs, but smart Boosters wont be using the same IP as main accounts)

"Trolling" Is anyone who flames for reasons to increase tempers in-game or on forums. Trolls are consistent and unforgiving. Do not feed the trolls. If you are a victim of trolling, Just ignore/mute/avoid. Feeding the troll only provokes more trolling.

"ELO Boosting" Comes in two forms, A smurf on enemy team/a smurf on allied team. The smurf on enemy teams job is to feed the 'boosted' player. While the smurf on the allied team is to by every means assist/kill for the 'boosted' player on his team.

Elo boosting is mostly common on Allied teams.

[VirusHunter]

just so you guys know the definitions posted at the beginning of this thread is the REAL definitions of smurfing and trolling. anything other than that is just your opinion but not true.

[NutzSucksHard]

Well, if he wanted real definition. Buy a dictionnary, google it, but don't forum post it then. Forum is for opinion, not for science.

I think what the user asked was, what is a SMURF and a TROLL in the view of the communities. Also, this is in general discussion, wich mean we can talk about any revelant question about the topic in link with it.. - Account Boosting / Smurf / Elo-Sniping / Troller - have all something common : It's about an account creation and what you're doing of it (after having your main one).

[Arcane-Razor]

problem is, most peoples definition of those things is wrong. hence why I took it upon myself to try and help the community by posting this topic. Yes, I did find the additions of boosting and elo sniping beneficial. Hence why its in a forum and not a locked thread where people can only read and not add to it. I know English isn't your language nuts, but science in the forums is beneficial. If I interpret what you said of instead of science its fact. Based upon the web dictionaries I did peruse before posting this thread. I didn't know if people would add to it, or if they would just try to shoot it down by trolling it. Which is the feeling I am getting from you. Whether that is the case or not, matters not. I would like to think that out of the 150+ people who viewed this thread, some of them might have actually learned something. If not, well, no harm no foul.

Also, I did not ask what a smurf and a troll was. I posted the definition of them for a reason, I knew full well, what the actual definitions were. This Was for everyone else, who was either confused or had no idea to begin with.

[Tascar]

Let's not forget that this was posted in the

General Disussion Area.
For

General

Discussion.

[NutzSucksHard]

I don't know why you're only at me. You like my signature right? I look more visible.

[spoiler=]Honestly, english isn't my prior language, still, will you or even, do you speak mine? - No. Get over it, stop talking about it, we all know I don't have the best english of the place. My grammar s*ck, yes, still, do you UNDERSTAND what I meant in all my sentences? Yes. This is the essential, otherwise, I wouldn't even be there posting. This forum let me train myself over 'writing' my english, you should go on a spanish/french/chinese or anything that isn't your best languages blog and try to moderate something there. The system is in english, user speak english, all is english. And I'am not ENGLISH of the fuck RELISH. Sweet aren't it?

C'est en spoil, donc je vais me faire un petit plaisir personel. Comprend tu au moins ce que je dis? Si oui, bravo à toi mon cher ami. Ce que j'essais de te dire, c'est que vous me les chiez à mort quand vous critiquez mon anglais. Merci, bonne journée/soirée. Ahhhh, ça fait du bien.[/spoiler]

I like what tascar said

Still, for the educational part, if you feel that was 'usefull'. So thank you, sir, for this great information that you just shared with us.

[Karver]

just so you guys know the definitions posted at the beginning of this thread is the REAL definitions of smurfing and trolling. anything other than that is just your opinion but not true.

Merely posting what I know from experience.
Played DotA DotA2 Heroes of Newerth and I'm an Avid LoL player.

I see this crap on a daily basis :/

[VirusHunter]

yeah i hear you. i was just saying that those definitions are right out the book lol. me personally. i feel that something means what you intend it to mean. example is the middle finger. really its only a finger but its what you mean behind it that gives it power. so trolling flamming elo sniper call it what you will. i think he was just posting this for people to know. like say you just bought wc3 from the dollar store and you never played online games before really so you never heard someone say trolling or flamming or w/e and you happened to peruse this forum. he hopes to have helped some people out and tried to help clarify the differences between them. nothing bad.