Bobby still out here ruining games

[iambackk]

That's absolutely not what i'm saying, i think i am in good position to know who can helps you in games or not.
mk4r32 is ok player, so players like him or some others can helps you in games.

[super_baller]

im here looking for @Bobalhao

[iambackk]

@bobalhao i removed the last 6 days of your ban.

Now you know, i am not kidding with you, you ruined every games for many years in this league and people to desesperate to report you.

I want you to stop to :
- go camp farm all game and die 10 times here, people know you are everytime in this spot.
- stop making helm with armor items first on agi heroes or on any hero, we don't start a game with an armor item....
- i hardly suggest you to focus on the gameplay, ask for gangs, play easy hero and heroes who's not easy killable (like trax, usually people focus trax because the hero dies fast).
- on agi heroes, we usually start with a chicken, aquila, get some heal, don't go back base if you are full hp/mana, you are wasting one minut of farm/gameplay everytime you are going base, after some start items get boots, like treads or phase boots or travels but it's expensive, lifesteal is not everytime a mendatory, you can ask me the best items (for my opinion) to any hero you want, make a list in private and i give you every advices you need.
You can also send me relpays from the futur games to ask me what good you did or what you can improve.

I want to helps you to improve your gameplay, imagine tomorrow people want to stack with bobby because you are better than most of this league?

The next time i see you feeding so much (beeing drunk or not, having a bad day or not), i do no care of any excuses you can give me, this will result to 1 year ban if you don't change the gameplay because i will consider you as an intentional ruiner for years and years.

I hope you understand everything, i am here to make the community better, not to ban people, i really don't like to give bans, to people i like or not.

I am here to solve appeals but also to helps players to improve their gameplay and give advices.

Best regards / Enjoy

[GodSaveTheQQs]

@bobalhao
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 231337.w3g

i see you are making two chainmail, why for what? i told you to stop this items, ok if you want to make a chainmail to focus blademail on viper no problem, but you did 2 chainamail, stop buying bullshit items everytime, focus on one item, get your boots, treads phase travels are all good on viper, you can get vanguard blademail to start or i don't know manta or aghanim, but stop making your armor items i warned you, you won't learn again ?

I want you to stop that right now, i did a post of 50 lines wasted 30 min to helps you, and you are following absolutely nothing, the next time i ban you one year because you are a special case and a special ruiner for many years now.

[iambackk]

@bobalhao you are banned until answer

[Bobalhao]

@bobalhao
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 231337.w3g

i see you are making two chainmail, why for what? i told you to stop this items, ok if you want to make a chainmail to focus blademail on viper no problem, but you did 2 chainamail, stop buying bullshit items everytime, focus on one item, get your boots, treads phase travels are all good on viper, you can get vanguard blademail to start or i don't know manta or aghanim, but stop making your armor items i warned you, you won't learn again ?

I want you to stop that right now, i did a post of 50 lines wasted 30 min to helps you, and you are following absolutely nothing, the next time i ban you one year because you are a special case and a special ruiner for many years now.

Ever since the 50 lines post i've been making the starting items YOU told me to: agi items (wraith band, poor man's shield, ring of aquila) and regen (tango, because if i buy ring of regen you wont like), then i go for the other items, starting from boots and lots of travel recipes so i can gank more with the team.

That said, in that particular game you mentioned, wich WE WON (by forfeit, i know, but we won), i got unlucky against sacred warrior. Dude took me for food and succeeded. As team was doing well, i thought in making both BM and AC, so maybe later he would think twice before attacking me in a brawl gank, as he did twice, or more. So i started from the cheapest item: two chainmails costs 1100 gold and gives me the same 10 armor that one 1400 gold platemail, and i can make 2 items from it.

In sum, i was just trying to have cheap 10 armor while preparing for 2 nice armor items.

[iambackk]

this items are not mad to be early game like you do, if you don't get this, you will stay banned.
Except like i said to make a blademail fast, but we don't go especially on viper/trax, platemail as 2nd item after boots or chainmail X 2.

What you think man, agi heroes need to rush on armor ? wtf are you saying, you have no clue about basics.
Get your aquila, then your treads (i recommend this boots for you) or travels phase if you want, then depending game, you can go lifesteal for trax, with some hp fast, like skady or manta and some damages, can get cristalys, butterfly idk you have million items.
For viper focus more on items like bm (i like agha), vanguard if you want so you don't die fast, manta also butterfly maybe, depending if you wanna go full tanky viper or more damages.

Stop making this items early i did not even checked your ip i know it was you with the items.

[Bobalhao]

this items are not made to be early game like you do

Wich ones?
You said i shouldnt make armor items then you say i should buy plate mail. Im getting confusing messages here.

Another thing: for me, "early game" is an abstract concept. For me it depends on a series of variables, specially "early gold". Imagine if i got coin, first kill then on a strike of luck got a second kill before level 4 or 5. Now magine if i am trax, a fast farmer, in that situation. My pockets would be kinda filled, right? In that case, the game is not that "early" for me anymore, and i can try unespected strategies. The same goes the other way around: slow farmers (like viper) must be more careful.

But, if you disagree with my theory, please set me a milestone (elapsed time, hero level, idk) of what is "early game", so o can trace a line that will tell me if i can buy or not items that are not made for early game.

Except like i said to make a blademail fast, but we don't go especially on viper/trax, platemail as 2nd item after boots or chainmail X 2

Confusing messages again.

I suspect you are not upset because i bought armor items. You are upset because i bought it BEFORE boots. Well, like i said that was an odd situation. Huskar was feeding on me. Boots wouldnt help me to survive longer against him. 2 chainmails was a thoughfull decision, not a stupid one. A good or bad one? We will never know, because the other team ff'd.

As i said, i was trying to get cheap 10 armor. Also, i wasnt aware that you had banned armor items for me.

What you think man, agi heroes need to rush on armor?

No i dont. Obviously agi items are the ones an agi char should rush. BUT... i began to leave base with chainmail because i tried a more aggressive starting mode (with viper, specially). That "aggressive mode" required three thing: armor, boots, and poison (first skill). But dont worry, you switched the "aggressive mode" off with the last ban + "very early" armor items embargo.

Im understanding now that you dont want me to buy armor items at all. Or maybe i can, i dont know... im really confused here.

Get your aquila, then your treads (i recommend this boots for you) or travels phase if you want, then depending game, you can go lifesteal for trax, with some hp fast, like skady or manta and some damages, can get cristalys, butterfly idk you have million items.

Ok.

1. Aquila
   (note: no poorman's shield? very cheap, chance of blocking damage, increases agi AND helps aura if i am trax)
2. Boots
3. From here on is "depending on game", i have a "million" options but you narrowed them down to a few, preferably not armor ones. Right! I will take note of the items you mentioned.

Anything else i should avoid buying? Is the buying sequence of items right? Are there any other tips on that too?

Trying to comply here and avoid surprises.

I did not even checked your ip i know it was you with the items.

Yeah, i confess i learned i was banned when i tried to join a game.

Then asked myself: "why am i even banned, if i just checked forums looking for a ban appeal on me and there was none, nor my user openstats have any mention of a ban?" (yeah, i double check forums BEFORE i try to play, to avoid being acused of dodging).

Then i logged in, trying to understand why. Found out the reason was "item buying sequence", in a game wich:
1st: my team won.
2nd: there was no harsh complains against me (just the usual "you have bobby lol" or "oh no we have bobby"... blablabla).

But what really shocked me is the lack of a ban appeal.

I'm all hands up.

[iambackk]

i don't know where you see me saying do a platemail, come on man, things are easy i try to explain you, this items aren't early items, ofc if you have 5 items and you go platemail to finish with assault, it's okey, but you are wasting 1400g or 1100 g on 2 chainmails for absolutely nothing early game.
Get your aquila your boots and ok do one platemail to make instantly a blademail for viper if you want, but come on make sens man.

You are banned as i mentionned, until answer from you, because you actually should be permabanned if you don't follow the 10 pm/post i did only for one player, be happy another mod would probably not waste his time with you seeing all the games you ruined for many years and he would just perma ban you.
i don't care your team won, what you did in games ? absolutely nothing except making fake items, you can ask 100% of ent players, nobody will support your build and your gameplay (game play is a little improving).

Okey i unban you but just to let you know i take care of everything, if i see you again wasting gold on items early game, i just ban you and stop answering.

One suggestion of items = trax = 1 aquila 1 wraith band or bracer, you can go jango if you went bracer, get treads boots it's my favorite or phase.
Then, lifesteal (madness or dominator), then you can make a skady and buriza, butterfly, manta also is good, and then you see, if you have ennemies with butterfly, can do mkb or anything else, ac is ok late game.

Viper = 1 aquila 1 wraith band or bracer, you can go jango if you went bracer, you can get a vanguard and a blademail, with tanky viper you can also go hot with some attack speed like butterfly, a manta is good also, aghanim isn't bad, shivas also and ac also if you want a tanky viper.

For a carry dps viper, can do more like manta, hot, buriza, butterfly, mkb, then maybe ac.

i unban you, don't make me regret this.

[Hunter91]

@bobalhao
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 231337.w3g

Its also the skill build that makes no sense, no Poison Attack at lvl 1 for 1st blood/coin fight and harassing and against an enemy hero in lane creeps will not attack you because Poison Attack is a spell.

Spoiler!

that would make more sense
lvl 1 - Poison Attack 1
lvl 2 - Nethertoxin 1
lvl 3 - Poison Attack 2
lvl 4 - Nethertoxin 2
lvl 5 - Poison Attack 3
lvl 6 - Viper Strike 1
lvl 7 - Poison Attack 4
lvl 8 - Nethertoxin 3
lvl 9 - Corrosive Skin 1
lvl 10 - Nethertoxin 4
lvl 11 - Viper Strike 2
lvl 12 - Corrosive Skin 2
lvl 13 - Corrosive Skin 3
lvl 14 - Corrosive Skin 4
or more defensively: skilling Corrosive Skin earlier

[Bobalhao]

@bobalhao
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 231337.w3g

Its also the skill build that makes no sense, no Poison Attack at lvl 1 for 1st blood/coin fight and harassing and against an enemy hero in lane creeps will not attack you because Poison Attack is a spell.

Spoiler!

that would make more sense
lvl 1 - Poison Attack 1
lvl 2 - Nethertoxin 1
lvl 3 - Poison Attack 2
lvl 4 - Nethertoxin 2
lvl 5 - Poison Attack 3
lvl 6 - Viper Strike 1
lvl 7 - Poison Attack 4
lvl 8 - Nethertoxin 3
lvl 9 - Corrosive Skin 1
lvl 10 - Nethertoxin 4
lvl 11 - Viper Strike 2
lvl 12 - Corrosive Skin 2
lvl 13 - Corrosive Skin 3
lvl 14 - Corrosive Skin 4
or more defensively: skilling Corrosive Skin earlier

Ok, taking notes here...

1st: aquila
2nd: boots (free choice, but better if tread)
3rd: cristalys (2150) or blademail (2200) or vanguard (2225) or aghanim (2720) or manta (4950) or butterfly (5000) or assault (5250) or skady (5875).

Ok, i guess that at this point (3rd item) we are not talking about "early game" anymore, due the cost of the items. Wich means, "early game" is until a player finishes his chosen primary attribute item AND ALSO boots. That is the line for "early game". Correct me if i am wrong.

1st and 2nd iten made, any of the recomended ones is fine, right? Ok, ill comply.

Now, this goes for @hunter91 or any other player on ent who fells like demanding "skill build sequence", "item buying sequence", "item category ban", idk, what else?

This is your chance. Come on! Emasculate the rest i've got on me!

[Hunter91]

@bobalhao
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 231337.w3g

Its also the skill build that makes no sense, no Poison Attack at lvl 1 for 1st blood/coin fight and harassing and against an enemy hero in lane creeps will not attack you because Poison Attack is a spell.

Spoiler!

that would make more sense
lvl 1 - Poison Attack 1
lvl 2 - Nethertoxin 1
lvl 3 - Poison Attack 2
lvl 4 - Nethertoxin 2
lvl 5 - Poison Attack 3
lvl 6 - Viper Strike 1
lvl 7 - Poison Attack 4
lvl 8 - Nethertoxin 3
lvl 9 - Corrosive Skin 1
lvl 10 - Nethertoxin 4
lvl 11 - Viper Strike 2
lvl 12 - Corrosive Skin 2
lvl 13 - Corrosive Skin 3
lvl 14 - Corrosive Skin 4
or more defensively: skilling Corrosive Skin earlier

Ok, taking notes here...

1st: aquila
2nd: boots (free choice, but better if tread)
3rd: cristalys (2150) or blademail (2200) or vanguard (2225) or aghanim (2720) or manta (4950) or butterfly (5000) or assault (5250) or skady (5875).

Ok, i guess that at this point (3rd item) we are not talking about "early game" anymore, due the cost of the items. Wich means, "early game" is until a player finishes his chosen primary attribute item AND ALSO boots. That is the line for "early game". Correct me if i am wrong.

1st and 2nd iten made, any of the recomended ones is fine, right? Ok, ill comply.

Now, this goes for @hunter91 or any other player on ent who fells like demanding "skill build sequence", "item buying sequence", "item category ban", idk, what else?

This is your chance. Come on! Emasculate the rest i've got on me!

Butterfly cost is 6k.
Im not a viper expert and i am not even close to the skill level i was over 10 years ago when i stopped playing dota, so i dig out a 13 year old guide that might be worth a read https://web.archive.org/web/20160403131 ... per-ownage

[Bobalhao]

You kidding me, right?

Do you know how many balances, upgrades, nerfs, changes on skills, etc, happened in 21 years of DotA?

And you want me to read a 13 years old guide? LOL!

Corrosive skin 1 AT 9??? You sure kidding me!

Try that skll build against a shrapnell crazy sniper. He will push you back and take your tower down in no time, because you dont passively hurt/slow him back.

13 years old guide, LOL!

[Bobalhao]

I talk back too much. And i like a "happy landing".

I cant help but think that if i used the same old hero, with the same old build, over and over and over again, year after year after year (like a well-known jakiro does) but IN SILENCE, with no "happy landing", maybe i wouldnt have been noticed.

Too late for that, i guess.

[Bobalhao]

Butterfly cost is 6k.

Oh, no! You found an error in my math!

But hey! You endorsed my argument in the proccess. For that i thank you, dude!

Nice maths!