DotA - The Game We Love?!

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby -lothlorien » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

I agree absolutely with you… Yet I think it doesn’t have to change. The reason is what you actually already said. One will reap what they sow.
We all know those to whom stats are everything and who want to kick every player on their team who is not to their liking regarding the kdr, even if they are 4 good players vs 5 average or even below. These people who only stack and get their high elo /good kdr not really deserved will now and then lose over 20 elo. And the good part is, this is what hurts them most :D they have to play more games to get little elo and it takes just average players (with decent team work) to undone days of work :D there is no better justice! ;)
And playing uneven games is fun.. if you lose, well it was to be expected..if you win, it feels really good :) I must admit that I cherish more the stackers’ losing much elo :twisted: than our team winning it. Ofc only when the other team flamed and trash talked that is.

apropos trash talkers..there is the lowest kind of flamers..those who stack like hell, (almost) the entire team picks heroes like: bara, husk, bs and pl… etc ..and they dare to talk big and call the opponents names and insult them when they manage to get a kill. Preferably in caps lock! :D The feeling to win against such individuals is priceless ;) But even losing is not a tragedy.. just don’t take it personal..everybody can only give what they have. Their flaming says so much more about themselves than the one they talk about.

Not only this makes the "pub/newb" players feel shy and awkward, but they also have hard time surviving,


yes and no. Being a big noob myself (after many, many games) I dare to say that noobs and advanced players in equal measures flame with and without reason. I have witnessed a Legion Commander duelling a tiny with double damage (I swear:D ) and complaining about his noob team. Also you have games where bloody beginners go mid and refuse to do anything the team says. Recently we had a dark seer who only bought a flying courier recipe(!) and went mid. He refused to listen to us… bought wrong items ofc etc etc.. when I see things like this I absolutely understand when people with 2000 elo or so try to avoid such a risk. Not to mention that they are occasionally even “victims” of stackers who follow them around.

to sum it up.. I disapprove flaming and so many players being mean.. especially because I know that some of the players are very young..which makes this "bullying" kind of tragic. But even this balances itself..every now and then u will find that a trash talker is being flamed himself even by his own team if he goes too far.
But such topics are importand ofc ...it is always good to talk about it..so people can relate to the other side..and maybe remember some things and act accordingly in games.

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:27 pm

Well nice long comments u All , i didnt read them cuz They are way too long :D .
hi loth , nice to See on the website , now u know Where to buy Ultimate orb :D? Joke

don't take This soo serious loth but tbh after 1000games played it is Amazing that u don't know Where to buy Ultimate orb , u askee it Like 10 Times :D u Was omni trying to farm skadi .


and well some People don't know What is stacking and What is not.

stacking , if u sd everyone and then join better team

not stacking , being in same team With 2 Friends or clanmates . Tbh i love games when im With my Friends and we Are owning hard noobs Like loth umm joke.

anyway i also love the balanced games when There are skilled Players in both teams. Wining that kind of game is awesome but losing is Bad , sometimes i just laugh when I lose , sometimes I rage and call my mom bitch and throw my pets around , @agreements , poor my little kitty :'(

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby zerodenies » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:18 pm

a stacked team = a team that is stacked in terms of skill level.

just because its 5 friends together doesnt mean its not stacked. stacked is referring to just the skill level, not the friendship level. if I say "oh im with friends with adventureclub/flowersnow/opi/irnoobtrainee so we are not stacked" you should be telling me "ummm no. you might be all friends but still your team is very stacked in skill level compared to the other team."

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby -lothlorien » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:32 pm

when i first saw your name here, bears, i regretted that i chose this nick..but after reading your comment I am kindly surprised, almost touched :D
this is the nicest thing you ever said to me:D

ofc i do remember that game(you were phoenix..and letthemcome clock..)..how could i forget when u made me pay for my ignorance with ur comments! :evil: (but after you repeated the exact description the 100th time, ill admit that i well deserved it)
and in my defence..i only didnt know because i consider skadi a selfish item to buy for a supporter. And I only wanted to buy because i was told so (by you, sir! ;)*what a nice of a noob I am, listening to the mean carry*)

Tbh i love games when im With my Friends and we Are owning hard noobs Like loth umm joke.

we hard noobs have our joys too..for example we enjoy the fact that you pros need like 30 games even with smurf accounts to get 1100 elo :twisted: ;) uum "joke" :P


ps. bear is a very good example of a good kind of flamer:D you can always trash talk him withouth having a guilty coincidence ..because a) he deserves it ( :P ) b) you can be sure there are no hard feelings because he can payback if you overdo

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby whatafaka » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:42 pm

beerisforbears wrote:Well nice long comments u All , i didnt read them cuz They are way too long :D .
hi loth , nice to See on the website , now u know Where to buy Ultimate orb :D? Joke

don't take This soo serious loth but tbh after 1000games played it is Amazing that u don't know Where to buy Ultimate orb , u askee it Like 10 Times :D u Was omni trying to farm skadi .


and well some People don't know What is stacking and What is not.

stacking , if u sd everyone and then join better team

not stacking , being in same team With 2 Friends or clanmates . Tbh i love games when im With my Friends and we Are owning hard noobs Like loth umm joke.

anyway i also love the balanced games when There are skilled Players in both teams. Wining that kind of game is awesome but losing is Bad , sometimes i just laugh when I lose , sometimes I rage and call my mom bitch and throw my pets around , @agreements , poor my little kitty :'(

funny u make jokes about loth, while u always stack urself and your level is just above noob average :)

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:35 pm

Whata Why So mad? Just joking With loth :) he's cool.
and u aren't good either invi picker :D don't be so serial

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:39 pm

And btw there are 2 kinds of noob , nice noobs like lth and then crybabys like whatfaka :Dand I'm sure that whatafaka will comment after this like beer beer noob stack always :D

anyway I play with my friends , like nicejob , koscrhris , can't.win Shinokuni
playfourmemate, etc all the nice and friendly guys oh I love u loth too , my own little noob =)
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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby -lothlorien » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:18 pm

Pls pls relax, ppl :) whatafaka is just being nice, defending a defensless nub. He is so courteous that he and his mate let me once play with them against a team where all were above 1400 elo. :arrow: brave.
And bears.. i am used to bears' comments (that are never really mean). If he wouldn’t say such things I would be worried that he’s not feeling well :cry:
and he is also my all-time favorite flamer!!! 8-) ;)

and here, help yourselves. (some thing I made today. Ofc, its not the actual pic and it doesnt look anything like that. But it tasted surprisingly ok.)..
to be enjoyed with some beer obviously ^^
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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby pwnd.lazy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:01 am

beerisforbears wrote:anyway I play with my friends , with my true friends like .... koscrhris


hahahahahahahahaha laughter of the day!!! seriously this made me pee my pants cuz its so funny on so many levels :D

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:43 am

Wash your pants bro

and why u come here and post all shit ? Pwnd u are stacker who can't win alone :'( poor you

please don't reply back . If u do u are crybaby

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:14 pm

And pwnd. please stop crying all the time , no1 cares about your comments so hush hush , we dont want cry kids to forum

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby pwnd.lazy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:13 pm

hahahahahahahahahaha ok i gotta do it, sry its just too funny. you know what stacking is? no u dont and u have proven it here. playing with friends is, guess what, stacking! but even better is your qq, lol your so funny you dont even know it. mmmh I feel like opening a ban request for your double post, but I wont as you have also revealed in this thread that you still live with your mum and call her bitch, shit Im crying of laughter again...thanks whata to point this out to me, haha ent CAN BE sooooo funny

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby beerisforbears » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:40 pm

told u... dont come here to cry....

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby Fangorn » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:48 pm

It's a interesting topic, worth discussing. Although, as I'm sure you have noticed by now, based on the replies, the ent community consists of - let's say - mostly underaged boyscouts who are unable to form a proper english sentence.

The inhouses could be an option, if only they weren't at the same level as the pubs, if not worse.
I wish you luck with finding someone who are willing to discuss this issue on a serious manner, there seem to have been none so far!

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Re: DotA - The Game We Love?!

Postby Amy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:19 pm

Fangorn wrote:It's a interesting topic, worth discussing. Although, as I'm sure you have noticed by now, based on the replies, the ent community consists of - let's say - mostly underaged boyscouts who are unable to form a proper english sentence.

The inhouses could be an option, if only they weren't at the same level as the pubs, if not worse.
I wish you luck with finding someone who are willing to discuss this issue on a serious manner, there seem to have been none so far!


Yeah, I wanted this thread to be something worthy of discussion as this topic is certainly directed to the DotA community, addressing the noteworthy points that happens on a daily basis while playing this game. (Hopefully off-topic posts will be hidden/deleted by someone who has power that reads this)

Inhouses certainly is a good idea, but Inhouses for both good/bad players would be much better. So that way skilled players are matched against skilled, and the rest would be matched with same manner. That can solve problems that arise b/w skilled vs non skilled players which in return would reduce the flaming/bad gaming experience for everyone and maybe everyone can be happy that way. Definitely a good idea, and certainly something worthy of having discussion by the DotA community at Ent.


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