[4.0.0][0103] "Mah ELO" - Current Version

[Neco]

0103e released! Changelog is, as always, in the OP.

[Stealer]

Lumber resale of Sacred Seashell is wrong. Sells for 1250 lumber but costs 500+1000.

[Neco]

Lumber resale of Sacred Seashell is wrong. Sells for 1250 lumber but costs 500+1000.

Looks like this was true for all Ultimate Towers, will be fixed for 0103e.

[doomfinger]

Neco,

I want to ask you to change the tooltips for morphlings lumber harvesters. Currently it is a common occurrence for people to use the regular lumber harvesters for a morphling despite the fact that the champion harvesters get 2x the lumber per swing of a regular harvester. The wording that is used for the harvesters leads countless people to believe that the regular harvesters are better for harvesting, when in reality they are there primarily for use in towers. At least make it worthwhile for morphlings to take on the risk of feeding more through having a LOT of harvesters active by making regular harvesters actually get more lumber over time.

[ShadowZz]

@doomfinger I'm sure somebody on here can link you to posts about this and I've seen it a lot of times. Normal harvesters do actually lumber more. There are twice as many normal harvesters as there are champions and whilst champions harvest twice as much the normal harvesters lumber slightly faster. It's not a huge difference but after 15-20mins it ends up being a lot. Don't quote me but I remember the test for this showing the difference between 1-3k wood in 20mins.

[Sytec270]

Why does titan levels up fast, 8-10 mins and already lvl 6-7

[BeeKauzh]

@doomfinger @shadowzz IIRC the regular harvest 31k whilst the champions harvest 30k.
That extra 1k is enough to build 1 extra tower!
Theres no difference if you ask me.
Atleast not big enough to use twice as much harvesters.

[ShadowZz]

@BeeKauzh I completely agree with you and whilst I can't confirm those numbers it wouldn't surprise me if they are correct. If anything I feel like there should be more of a difference to coincide with the risk of having more.

[Neco]

There is a difference, harvesting depends on a lot of factors like distance of the shelter and how many you have.

Anyways, 0103f released! With some bug fixes really.

[Stealer]

Tbh I always felt like harvesters lumbered like 1.05x compared to workers so the 3f had. A bunch of stuff going for it except detonating.

Maybe neco give lumber rates & upgrade effect.

[Neco]

Normal: A00T

Champion: A0PA

[ShadowZz]

6 food worker = 2.2 sec harvest rate.
3 food wroker = 1.7 sec harvest rate.

Ignoring lumber return time and 6 food workers returning twice per 20 lumber.
6 food worker harvests 20 lumber in 2.2x10=22 secs.
2 3 food workers harvest 20 lumber in 1.7x10=17 secs.

In a 20 minute period, 20x60=1200 secs.
Rounding to 2 decimal places.
6 food worker, 1200/22=54.45 returns of 20 lumber. 20x54.45=1089 lumber total.
2 3 food workers, 1200/17=70.58 returns of 20 lumber. 20x70.58=1411.6 lumber total.

Multiplying for full food.
25 6 food workers after 20 mins harvest 1089x25=27225 lumber total.
25 sets of 2 3 food workers after 20 mins harvest 1411.6x25=35290 lumber total.

If you factor in 6 food champions having to return twice that gap will get longer by about 0.2 for every return they make.

Quite a big difference to be honest.

@Beekauzh I guess it's a lot more lumber than either of us thought. About 8000 wood after 20 mins.