Couple questions?

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby matdas » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:59 pm

eldryan wrote:\
however.... I guess some people have never played castle fight before (supersexyy and matdas) the game engine can in fact bug from custom game coding. furthermore, the game bugs quite regularly as can be seen in "warcraft 3.exe has encountered a fatal error" crashes. many times parts of the map can in fact glitch and change color. however, that's most likely not what happened here. It's pretty obvious the setting for "turn the map black" was on. if you believe there are no errors you aren't encountering and only fatal ones, I suggest you read up on errors a bit more.


I suggest you re-read your statement. and actually see why it occurs. Do you know what causes those fatal errors? Have you seen what causes those fatal errors? It isn't a warcraft 3 bug, it is a map bug. It happens when the map is unable to process the units within the map correctly. This causes pink and black polka-dotted boxes to show up everywhere (not many people get to see them because they crash to fast or have not loaded a saved game that has these). Think before you try accusing us of being wrong.

Sexxy is not wrong in his statement.
P.S: I've played castle fight probably more times than you have and have had the fatal error, desyncs, etc. happen more times than you think.

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby pewpew lasergun » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:13 pm

i didnt play at the time, but lihl players confirmed halibel map was "burning" when it was first released.
so a glitch in minimap cant be excluded, although the minimap alone glitching can be seen as unlikely.

at this point there is no definitive 100% answer about the mh. the lihl admin team has concluded likely mh.

there is no need to go back and forth, its just not worth it and leads no where.

i think Healbycolor should serve some time unvouched, and then be forgiven and allowed to play again.
maybe a mod can tell him when he can appeal again.

when you instal mh, is there any files added to the war3 directory ?
i suggested before for a mod to open a remote admin session on his computer and look his partition table and look for his mh files if present. even if those files were deleted, they will be found.
it is not worth the hassle, but looking at all the back and forth maybe it is.

for any mod interested here is the tools needed:
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
or
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
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its a dos based apps, unless his hard drive has gone through a multiple pass algorithm, the files are recoverable.

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby Don_Killuminati » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:30 pm

Well, i can confirm about the hp king bug, it's happend to me like 3-4time, start with a king 2300hp xD .
About this case, we all agreed to said, it was a very very supsicious ss, since the mini map clack option was on, and all east side was black : HBC saids he don't usually play with that option on, so was done for the ss.
With all objectivity, If a bug was done, it was not a ingame bug, but a bug when the ss was taken, because he said his minimap was not like this ingame.
So i'm not that screenshot pro and don't know if it can happen the ss is taken and a part of the picture damaged (here mini map), but to be honest hard to trust.
Concerning what i know about HBC , he is a good manner boy, and not that elo try harder so i was a bit surprise when i heard about that case.
I vote for a ban reduce, since he was not a toxic or bad manners man and even if he did mh, he wont do it anymore i guesss ;P .
Anyways cyu soon HBC.

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby matdas » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:50 pm

when you instal mh, is there any files added to the war3 directory ?

yes, you drag it into war3 directory.

on another note, since i dont feel like quoting specifics. we already know hbc has mh on his computer... he tried to frame gog for it with a screenshot from a replay with him having it initiated...

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby HealByColor » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:44 pm

this wasn't meant to be an appeal just bring up some bugs I have noticed and my un-vouch is necessary the integrity of the league... I understand that the length excessive. When I am able to put my appeal in I will.
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Re: Couple questions?

Postby eldryan » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:38 am

matdas wrote:
eldryan wrote:\
however.... I guess some people have never played castle fight before (supersexyy and matdas) the game engine can in fact bug from custom game coding. furthermore, the game bugs quite regularly as can be seen in "warcraft 3.exe has encountered a fatal error" crashes. many times parts of the map can in fact glitch and change color. however, that's most likely not what happened here. It's pretty obvious the setting for "turn the map black" was on. if you believe there are no errors you aren't encountering and only fatal ones, I suggest you read up on errors a bit more.


I suggest you re-read your statement. and actually see why it occurs. Do you know what causes those fatal errors? Have you seen what causes those fatal errors? It isn't a warcraft 3 bug, it is a map bug. It happens when the map is unable to process the units within the map correctly. This causes pink and black polka-dotted boxes to show up everywhere (not many people get to see them because they crash to fast or have not loaded a saved game that has these). Think before you try accusing us of being wrong.

Sexxy is not wrong in his statement.
P.S: I've played castle fight probably more times than you have and have had the fatal error, desyncs, etc. happen more times than you think.


I know why it occurs. I in fact specifically say "the game engine can in fact bug from custom game coding" in the quoted paragraph. Furthermore, HBC was banned over a black box ( no pink) on his minimap. Are you being intentionally facetious?

Anyhow, the warcraft 3 game engine crashing due to a fatal error in warcraft 3 is... a warcraft 3 error. Which means the engine has an error, caused by the map being run in the engine. I guess the relevance of this post is completely lost on you....

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby matdas » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:03 am

not going to argue with a dummy. he obviously can't read what is written.

HealByColor wrote:this wasn't meant to be an appeal just bring up some bugs I have noticed and my un-vouch is necessary the integrity of the league... I understand that the length excessive. When I am able to put my appeal in I will.

Glad that you are an understanding person.

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Re: Couple questions?

Postby nabo. » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:11 pm

Whether me or another mod will bother checking heal's partition depends on what heal does.

Furthermore, there are ways to countermeasure against what you posted esp since u went ahead and kinda mentioned about it.

The topic is not an appeal. I assume heal got the answers he seeked.

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