Eldryan Unvouch [TOXIC]

[Nore]

Hahaha why am I not surprised? Why do you think I haven't been around much.. coincidence it was right when Eld came back? This guy is not fit for LIHL; he is too moody and whiney.. too stubborn and proud.... and mostly too angry all the time. Find a new hobby Eld, and do the whole league a favor and go back to being gone. It's a shame if you aren't unvouched, but honestly I gave up thinking that could ever happen long ago.

[eldryan]

Might want to provide replays so moderators can see for themselves, @MarshMallows

the rules explicitly say you can ignore. saying following the rules is cause for unvouch is pro.

tl;dr; ignoring is ok but not at the beginning of the game without a reason. It hinders communication and afaik, we had punished players before for doing so.

as wolke said, he has been doing this to me for a while w/o any consequence. many players do this to players they don't like. Just hug raging and reporting it when it's him who is ignored, where other players dont care.

but I can list the players in this thread who have issues they want to bring up, and all know who they are. nore/1007/hug/avada/n1ll3 all have issues. marsh is fine, but doesn't want to play w/ me when I ignore hug - understandable, I don't want to play with a cheater so I ignore. dong/wolke obvs not fans. some players who have refrained from commenting are guennter/law3(both kind of inactive) maybe also have issues. but having 7 players come to forum and spam this bs is not going to accomplish any objective, even if guennter/law/some other player do come and mention something.

[elektro]

well i didnt had any conflicts with eldryan, but my advice to him is, try to not be so hatefull, so the other guys here in lihl stop to hate u and your behaviour... is a friendly league, not a war.

[FredeGL]

I too agree on Eldryans very bad behavior, it is really almost impossible to play a game with him on the team. He don't want to listen to others because he is number 1 lihl player, he solo sends to force team to send even if 2 or 3 members disagree, he flames me on kingcontroll so damn often, yet he still makes tk kc himself and cry if ppl say he did bad kc. He is very fast to give up on a game if someone didn't make that 1 wisp extra on a lvl and then make a tk call afterwards. I support punishment agains him, for his extremely childish behavior exceptionally towards hug.
@Eldryanthewise why can't you just be more nice to people and try having fun? let discussions on calls be a possiblity on your team, don't think you own the right to call more than others!

[eldryan]

I too agree on Eldryans very bad behavior, it is really almost impossible to play a game with him on the team. He don't want to listen to others because he is number 1 lihl player, he solo sends to force team to send even if 2 or 3 members disagree, he flames me on kingcontroll so damn often, yet he still makes tk kc himself and cry if ppl say he did bad kc. He is very fast to give up on a game if someone didn't make that 1 wisp extra on a lvl and then make a tk call afterwards. I support punishment agains him, for his extremely childish behavior exceptionally towards hug.
@Eldryanthewise why can't you just be more nice to people and try having fun? let discussions on calls be a possiblity on your team, don't think you own the right to call more than others!

your behavior right here is childish. you are crying for punishment because of ignore? just use some restraint.

if you are complaining about solo send/play, please post evidence of it. if this is about king-control, I think you are really overly-concerned about my opinion on your KC.

Message to moderators: The reason allowing this sort of thread is stupid, is no one is going to publicly reminisce in this thread about "positive" experiences. We will talk to each other further, and just go do pub games etc. No one will make a post in forum about "this person is so cool" or "I really like this person" because it's asinine to think anyone cares about that. The only time someone will post anything contrary to the OP is if they have a problem with something that was said. No one wants to fight over whether you like someone or not, so nobody is going to post unless they have a problem and wants to make drama.

[Jamo]

No one will make a post in forum about "this person is so cool" or "I really like this person"

Well, but isn't that strange? I mean, usually there is a reason a thread like this comes up and gets so many replies as well. Doesn't this at least make you think a bit? Maybe you could at least show some willingness that you try to change something. I think the fact that you act so completely stubborn to everything people say is something, that appeals to people really bad... I get that you don't want to be butt friends with everyone. But if close to nobody likes you, that cannot be your goal either.

[eldryan]

No one will make a post in forum about "this person is so cool" or "I really like this person"

Well, but isn't that strange? I mean, usually there is a reason a thread like this comes up and gets so many replies as well. Doesn't this at least make you think a bit? Maybe you could at least show some willingness that you try to change something. I think the fact that you act so completely stubborn to everything people say is something, that appeals to people really bad... I get that you don't want to be butt friends with everyone. But if close to nobody likes you, that cannot be your goal either.

i think you missed the point of your own post? you agreed no one is going to say "this person is so cool", so there will only be negative posts as you said. then you say "no one saying they like you" isn't my goal.

[pewpew lasergun]

eld is not toxic.
he comments on other players builds to the benefit of the team.
if its annoying to anyone player just let him know not to comment on your build.
if he ignored someone preemptively, it was in anticipation of further escalation from an argument on a previous game.

lets be civil.

[Jamo]

What I meant is, that I for example remembered the thread about if Dodo should be unvouched, where actually people stood up for her saying things like you quoted nobody will ever say. I just mean, it would definately make me think if there would be my name in the title here and I would probably not only search for faults from others but also of my own and see if I should change something... just my 2 cents

[matdas]

i've only seen one topic other than this one, so it can't be all bad.

Edit: and it all blows up b/c of whats said in channel too. I don't blame Eld so much as I blame others for dragging it into the next game/lobby.

[dweiler]

I think the complaints are obvious now. No matter if you want to be liked or not, you do play in an in-house league @eldryanthewise , and that means you at least need to be able to communicate with people. So dont use !ignore unless you get flamed/there is spam. Also behave in other ways in a way that is reasonable in a league. If you don't understand what I mean, then just stick to communicating about calls in the game.

I also see Eldryanthewise is using !ignore for reasons in the past. So when eldryan stops using !ignore I don't want to see any baiting/provoking/flaming. If any of this happens the persons responsible can expect a temporary unvouch.

In short: behave like adults - communicate about basic stuff and no instigating. If anyone can't do this feel free to PM me or make a topic here showing it. I trust on it that this is done if you stick to this. Archiving.