this new 4v4-stuff

[MichaelSong]

@Hutzu I understand what your saying bro, but I fear how you will gonna change rules to ban this shit. must need 1 holder at team? or must up attack or use skills regardelss of will?

I don't mind banning this because I DO DISLIKE this kind of playing.
But, which I fear is you have to be considerate since there would be no chance that new upcoming rule would kill the chance to win against the good roll opponent when allies have 4x have really shit rolls.

Whatever, I'm sure @diablo_ and @hutzu will take care of this situation pretty well.

[Krayyzie]

Its simple..same solution as leakign 100 units on 7.. hpmmcb. NO GOLD from leaks... It doesnt remove yolo, but atleast you dont gain benefits from leaking..

[SLSGuennter]

this second point is a good one hutzu

[supersexyy]

I agree with krayyzie. Hpmmcb mode is the more skillful mode but the problem is the majority had no ability to adapt (read as only know how to yolo) that it was an unpopular mode.

[Krumme]

I see plenty of people in this league that only stand a chance here cause they can yolo with pretty much everything (and if it fails, who cares cause you can just keep pushing jacks, leak all lvls and end game pre 20) - if we were to do hpmmcb mode instead I fear we would go from a semi skilled league to an inactive league and I guess this is where the dillema is.

[eldryan]

I feel like hpmmcb will in fact favor the leakers. They get most of their gold from income anyways, not from leaks.

Although I haven't seen this strat, the gist seems pretty simple... Can just send level 4, and they won't be able to hold or income hard for lvl 5 and they lose? Why is it difficult....

[godlik3]

no need to clog tho....u only have to leak like 35 on 6
and king full rege and hp -_-

[Krumme]

@eldryan but how will the incomers recover when no gold from kingleaks? This is often where half of their recovery gold comes from.

[eldryan]

@eldryan but how will the incomers recover when no gold from kingleaks? This is often where half of their recovery gold comes from.

they will stay 7/5 or 7/6 instead of going 7/8 7/10. they wont all yolo all 10 lvls to the same degree, or they will have to clog and race it on 13.

I don't think this strategy is that good, and don't really see a need to change mode - although if everyone wants to, it's a more challenging mode and would be more fun in many ways. 27 bos is impressive, would like to watch that.

[SLSGuennter]

@eldryan ... i had games leaking 64 units on king in 4 and then u leak 100 on 5, still u need 2 heals only even with good send and no king-skill-using u cant kill 20/0/20 king in 5. and in 6 u can leak 80 again, and u dont need control king, use kingskill or heal and dont lose more then 10k hp easy recovered till 7-creeps come to king

[Qvist]

i vote for hpgmcb merc, so all can see what this tactic is like .. Ask Bugatti and Goats about this.
Fucking funny to play this delay tactic 3 or 4 times but after that, its just waste of time.


And btw.. hpmmcb is a terrible mode. That is rollluck at is finest.

I wonder? What different modes are there really? Any other suggestion than hpmmcb.

Maybe no fog can make a difference from this no skill gameplay

[eldryan]

apmmcb with race picks, drafting order or just no repeating.

also, 2 heals gone if they leak 12 bosses on 10 is enough.

[archol]

Hpmmcb - ban the overpowered towers like archer etc

[dweiler]

(This is not intended for the people who want hpmmcb regardless of the new tactic, but the one's complaining about the new tactic)

There is a very rough and sketchy new tactic out there and nobody actually knows whether it is good or bad, if it can be countered and if it will change the scene. To me that sounds more fun and exciting than the same 4vs4-stuff we have been doing for the last year or so. I don't get why people get so defensive because of a new tactic. Perhaps if it turns out in 2,3 months that games get really boring and it is really overpowered something should be done about it, but we are not even close to that moment yet.

It would be nice if instead of complaining or banning a mode people will think of ways to counter the tactics or make it even better. Join the progressive and stop being a dull old conservative

[Krayyzie]

well, this is just a progress of another tactic which it totally skilless, ever since the last few months..half year? cant remember how long, since those 90 leaks lvl 7, 80 lvl 8 and another 100 lvl 9 to gain income. once this strat arrived, there´s no point in having a vouch system, because you dont need to know anything about how to build or what to send.. all u need to know is how to press on that lumber button, and you´re welcome to join the one and only inhouse legion td league...

For the one who said hpmmcb will benefit the yoloers, yolo is for sure not impossible with hpmmcb, but Alot of the gold yoloers use to get those last few lumber ups are from king gold, and also, the 70 leaks on lvl 5(for example) makes ur holder insanely strong, with hpmmcb, yoloers wont get this extra gold, and neither will their holder, which means leaking wont benefit the team as much as before, holding gives advantage which imo is the right progress of this league..