Suggestion AS on vouch requests to be forbidden

[Diablo_]

Whether they use Antistuck or not simply doesn't matter. Like really, why would anyone care about it? xd
Might aswell say they can't say a single bad word in their replays, they can't do any delay with their king etc.
And adapting to no Antistuck is easy and maybe 1% of the people joining LIHL aren't aware of its ban in their first game.

But anyway, imo this topic is only of interest of the mods and a public poll is unsuited for it. And since Hutzu and me had that discussion not long ago and he was ok with not forbidding it and Wolf thinks that aswell, this kinda is set already

[MichaelSong]

Agree with Diablo_'s opinion. Can't say more
I was one also abusing antistuck after I got first vouch and got 5 days of ban due to abusing it. ( I didn't even know it was against rule before I got temporarily unvouch and diablo_ said to me, it's against rule. )
Furthermore, people who are applying to LIHL don't know exact rule before they got vouched unless they have big interest in league, if we do forbid AS, I fear it might fear away possible applicants due to picky standards.

[nabo.]

Pub game should be played with pub-style. There are advantages to using AS, yes. But, should not affect evaluation standards much. It is more about making the right/best decisions: knowing when to push or obing with the resources at hand, good positioning, and adjusting to towers you have.

Submitting 3-4 replays with no antistuck usage may hint better adaptability to lihl standards though. You guys could simply note that while it is not mandatory, examples of no AS usage is preferred...unless you guys dont care.

[aRt)Y]

@MichaelSong Once again, this suggestion is not to add yet another criteria which has to be 100% fulfilled. Therefore, saying "picky standards" is just wrong.
Secondly, I barely care about people who get banned because they dont know rules; that's just a no-go argument. Joining a league should make you even more pay attention to guidelines and rules - isn't that obvious?

not mandatory, examples of no AS usage is preferred

There arent only down-sides. Think about a vouch request which is 50/50. If the player plays with lihl standards in pub games to prove himself worthy of being a league player, it can be in his favor turning 60/40 for approval. Plus, you would already see how he might play later on in the league based on that (depending on how much "lihl" he applies ingame, lel).

And it's not like he has to play all games like that. Just certain ones he would consider for review in his vouch request.

This whole idea aint too complicated.

[Diablo_]

@MichaelSong Once again, this suggestion is not to add yet another criteria which has to be 100% fulfilled. Therefore, saying "picky standards" is just wrong.

No, this suggestion is about strictly forbidding Antistuck in vouch request replays (the just-a-hint thingy is only your interpretation/change of suggestion).

There arent only down-sides. Think about a vouch request which is 50/50. If the player plays with lihl standards in pub games to prove himself worthy of being a league player, it can be in his favor turning 60/40 for approval. Plus, you would already see how he might play later on in the league based on that (depending on how much "lihl" he applies ingame, lel).

That would also be rather silly imo. Something as minor/unimportant as that shouldn't influence the outcome of the app.

Anyway, archiving this now. Thanks for the suggestion, we will keep it in mind and talk this through internally if we think it's time to change it.

[aRt)Y]

@Diablo_ Armed has posted the suggestion and he fully agreed with my interpretation, so yes, it's correct.