Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

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Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Yes
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No
2
9%
 
Total votes: 23

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby ILOCOS_NORTE » Thu May 07, 2015 4:31 pm

Here the plott:

x-axis is the ELO difference of a game, y-axis is the ELO win for the lower ELO team
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby supersexyy » Thu May 07, 2015 9:02 pm

Hence, scale elo.
Actual difference between elo, halve that and you can get the applied difference.
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby HealByColor » Mon May 11, 2015 1:59 pm

aRt)Y wrote:20/10 seem randomly chosen to me just like 15/15. If you want to go with a standard ELO, then do it with -+1.

Furthermore, I doubt you are in charge of telling uak which things to implement. Please leave that to us.

No offense seems power trip in a half. Why could he not make a suggestion to uakf.b? Any player should be able to suggest things. @uakf.b your fat :)
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby aRt)Y » Mon May 11, 2015 3:28 pm

Off topic:
@HealByColor It's off-topic, however, players dont report to uak. They suggest things on the forum, get it approved by the community or staff and then uak is notified. Else any random pub could go and tell uak what to do.

He phrased it badly though since he only requested information for the calculation.


So what's the final math form people here agree on?
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby supersexyy » Mon May 11, 2015 9:41 pm

Locos' formula is legit and should be implemented. Elo win/loss is much closer to the game outcome % Than the current formula, especially at the larger differences.
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby ILOCOS_NORTE » Tue May 12, 2015 9:05 am

aRt)Y wrote:So what's the final math form people here agree on?

https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 15#p233336

Off topic:
People dont really "agree" with it though since we dont know yet how the !scoring system actually works. People trust me here (95% support and 1 one troll (wiser then me)) and if you ask them whether they want a logarithmic function to the basis 10, a root function, or a linear function ... what answer do you expect. Because there was no need, no one spent time do deal with the math. But the main idea is approved by community and staff

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby eldryan » Tue May 12, 2015 9:23 am

ILOCOS_NORTE wrote:
aRt)Y wrote:So what's the final math form people here agree on?

https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 15#p233336

Off topic:
People dont really "agree" with it though since we dont know yet how the !scoring system actually works. People trust me here (95% support and 1 one troll (wiser then me)) and if you ask them whether they want a logarithmic function to the basis 10, a root function, or a linear function ... what answer do you expect. Because there was no need, no one spent time do deal with the math. But the main idea is approved by community and staff


I didn't vote, but I think it's a little preemptive to call someone a troll just because of their voting preference. Let's keep it civil.

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby ILOCOS_NORTE » Tue May 12, 2015 11:23 am

eldryan wrote:I didn't vote, but I think it's a little preemptive to call someone a troll just because of their voting preference. Let's keep it civil.

;) I can't even sleep cause I dont know who voted against :lol:

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby Krayyzie » Tue May 12, 2015 8:04 pm

Could just keep the same as now, only difference would be that once a game goes up to 21-9, its 20-10 max, so 21/9, 23-7, 25-5 games are all 20-10, but 19-11 games are still 19-11,

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby uakf.b » Fri May 15, 2015 2:08 am

This seems to be working now.
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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby pewpew lasergun » Fri May 15, 2015 4:33 am

@uakf.b
it just bugged lihl, games r not registering elo win loss

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby Krumme » Fri May 15, 2015 12:55 pm

seems to be not only in LIHL^

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Re: Poll: Do you want a 20:10 ELO w/l cap for all LIHL games?

Postby uakf.b » Fri May 15, 2015 3:31 pm

Oh, I disabled the script so that I could run it manually. Should be working now.
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