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why u lock my topic?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:31 pm
by mega-tuby
i think everybody have a right to talk wat they are thinking and now u block my topic cause there are some of them go for commend? it is talk about me , not all come to talk good about some can come to complaint about me and i am really willing to listen or read about it. Now u block it i think it kind of unfair for me. They have right to talk and u can still keep ur right to unvouched me. that all i can say

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:08 pm
by pewpew lasergun
its ok you can reapply in a couple weeks.
good players will almost never complain about another player skill.
its only those average ones that will, because they dont like loosing.

just adjust when you have to ob and when u have to push.
watch some trancedout replays or diablo_ they are the most rounded players.

If you like playing average towers like me over archer/aqua without rr its fine. however u need to know what u r doing to not drag ur team down.

for example if i get Frost dragon, i usually dont want to rr because its fun to play.
however its mandatory to have with it aoe, fast towers or ice aura. else u will fail hard at round 3 with a send.
same thing goes for wc.
thats why when i dont have the right supporting towers i rr frost dragon.
ofc i learned that after hearing much flame, now i am a frost dragon specialist ^^

if u want to ob the most crucial part where you should is round 1 2 3 until the enemy team sends.
look also some beep replays. we had to make lihl rules just because of his play style.
we used to play without holder, even if someone has holder units.
I remember we leak 80 creeps at round 5 and 0 heal. king is maxed by 7.
I am an average player, but I still thing in 4s the only tower worth holding with is harlot, and harlot only. not even ygg.
ofc it depends on alot of things like ur teamates towers and the pace of the game.

there is a player dodo, who used to suck alot
his name is nore, he kept taking that ob spot religiously.
now he is good.
1007 got his lihl app denied when he applied to lihl.
reapplied and went to number 1 lihl when he joined ^^
so dont worry about it, just try to improve ^^
see you around dodo !

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:33 pm
by Nore
lol the name dropping is real.. :P Let's stay on point here; the topic was locked because Mick felt that it was getting off track and not adding anything to the actual issue. We should not be pointing at others in her vouch request; if anyone has a problem with someone that they think should be unvouched, they can present a case to us via PM or topic here on the forums, just as some did with Dodo. Anything besides that is just pointless speculation.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:00 pm
by Don_Killuminati
To be honest, if you guys unvouch dodo, you guys should unvouch also at least 5-10 LIHL players, old or new .
If you do, you should do it for all at the same time, or it can end by ppl thinking about favoritism and biased judgment.
I know that im not active a lot theses days, but Its my opinion in a unbiased way.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:11 pm
by Nore
There was nothing biased about this decision. All 3 mods ended up agreeing on it in the end, and we spent about 2 weeks watching dodo(at least). She is free to appeal as Mick said, and we already did this to several players before. If you have a case against "other vouches", feel free to submit it to us, and we will handle it as we see fit. Stop trying to label this as "biased" though; we were as fair about this as we have ever been.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:50 pm
by Don_Killuminati
Well, im not saying that it was biased judment, im saying that it can be interpreted like biased by others players.
I know that you guys have nothing personal against dodo and you want the best for the league ;
but if i was in your place, i would open a thread about unvouch players in mods section and think about who would be unvouched for lack of skills/attitude and do it for all at the same time.
As i said , its just my opinion about unvouch player in general and not about this specifical one.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:37 pm
by Diablo_
To make it clear:
Dodo was, in our opinion and also based on the amount of complaints by other players, the player who most deserved an unvouch based on skill only. We have a few other players we are watching closely and who are still topic to unvouches but definitely not "5-10".
As always people have different opinions about players and their skills and often even justified because people play differently in different games, so it can be that some only saw dodo in her better games while others often were part in her really bad ones.
As I said about no other player we received so many complaints and all 3 mods have paid close attention to dodo in the last few weeks and have watched multiple replays of her -> all agreed on the unvouch for being a simply too unstable player and overall one of the worst if not the worst.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:58 pm
by tariqtd
dodo my dear , as your friend i give you an advice and trust me in this one
move over this issue for now please , and reapply after 2-3 weeks with better replays and i am sure you will do bitter in your new trail vouch
this is not the end at all , you did see that evryone liked you as person but some ppl have issue about your builld ....... , evryone can make mistakes and evryone can progress
salam and good luck

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:59 pm
by archol
Hello dear(s),

though im not a part of LIHL anymore (main reason was that i grew tired of the average skill - which went commonly downhill after each season, though i didnt want to admit it at the time - because i didnt want to hurt anyone) i want to offer you a (few) private training sessions to improve your knowledge/skills regarding certain (rarely used) towers, advanced thinking etc., reason is that you seem to be determinated and i remember you as very nice and kind person.

I doubt my skills dropped, as its more or less muscle memory after trying to regain most knowledge from that time (if you already teached a few into LIHL like me), so just give me a shout if you want too - though if there are new tactics after my quit then i cant help you with that

PS: I have to login each 3 months, so no one can steal my name - which happened at Island Defense Inhouse at a certain time haha

Greetings

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:11 pm
by 1007
ok dodo this is my tips with poor english

i have seen your 'i dont like suicide' 'suicide is boring'
truth is everybody hate suicide ofc suicide is boring
but ppl want to win
some example

1005,1006,1007,dodo same team
1005=ea 1006=ygg 1007=alpha or sentry dodo=ea
if i say'fuck suicide im not gonna suicide suicide is boring
and if i hold 5 with 3/1 or 4/1 and hold till lv 9 with 7/3
and suddnly suicide after 10 with shit jack (0bounty fast game cant recover with bad rr)
you done pleny like this
i still remember your crab+upcrab+asc+tier2or tier1 lv 5 with 4/0
cant remember value was 780 or 800 value
eventully you stuck 7/5 after 10 and barely 2.6k send lv 15
cant hold cant send=tk
and you didnt even tried sacrifice for our holder(early feed lv 5 6 7 8 9)

if your team have ygg+ea and you got mutant
but game so fast
what you gonna do?
you gonna 7/5 and 2.6k send lv 15 and 3.2k value lv 15
or you gonna 7/9 lv 15 4.2k send and leak hard 15
if you want the former you better play 1200+ for fun
but if you want to win and competition you need to pick the latter

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:17 pm
by pewpew lasergun
1007 is right.
he means u need to have a purpose after 10.
either ur a good holder 14 15 and go mid.
or
have alot of wood for send.
no hold mid, no good wood = tk

thats the translation ^^

look this my replay
average unit no suicide
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8455024

i think i only make mistake leak 6.
after arena i rr revs and good value income so i know i can go mid 15 = no suicide. if rr bad i would push more.
i up ogre for 3 and 6, so i dont have to ob for 6 because sentry bad 6. also ogre up behind tot up is ok 5.
sometimes 7/3 good sometimes 7/4 better. u need use judgement.
if slow game usually 7/4. u need see ur team if all bad 8, dont build 8 and jack, because all king leak.
if you expect both teams leaks 7 to king, then good jack more. because more king gold and more time ^^

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:04 am
by mega-tuby
thanks u guys all for commend. i will take my time to think about reapply lihl after 3 weeks. But i hope when i get back or may get back to lihl, i can play with orther with respect and friendly really.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:08 pm
by Don_Killuminati
Diablo_ wrote:To make it clear:
Dodo was, in our opinion and also based on the amount of complaints by other players, the player who most deserved an unvouch based on skill only. We have a few other players we are watching closely and who are still topic to unvouches but definitely not "5-10".
As always people have different opinions about players and their skills and often even justified because people play differently in different games, so it can be that some only saw dodo in her better games while others often were part in her really bad ones.
As I said about no other player we received so many complaints and all 3 mods have paid close attention to dodo in the last few weeks and have watched multiple replays of her -> all agreed on the unvouch for being a simply too unstable player and overall one of the worst if not the worst.


Seems pretty clear,
@mega-turby as 1007 said, focus ur mind on how to win the game and nor how to not leaks, gl for next weeeks.

Re: why u lock my topic?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:17 am
by Nore
Seems like this topic has served it's purpose. I am going to archive this now, thanks everyone who has given positive input here.

I hope this isn't the last we see of you @mega-tuby