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Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:57 am
by ILOCOS_NORTE
To balance the kings immolation ability, we can ask brouder to further decrease its range in a way, that only those creeps are damaged that actualy attack the king. Means on lvl 7, if you leak tons of satyres (like 100), only ~35 will be dmged at the same time. Once a satyre dies, a fresh one will replace his spot and keep up dps on king. In numbers, the dps from immolation on lvl 7 will be reduced from up to >1000 dps to ~400 dps.
This change will cost heals if you plan to full send and full leak 7 with few hp upgrades.

Please only vote "yes" here. If you dont like this change make your own poll, ty.

@broud3r stay tuned

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:40 am
by FadingSuns
Good point ILO. 100% support. It is really a nice way to balance king spells and immo wont guarantee a easy life.

Other possible sugestions by me to balance king skills than this:

1) redue wave cooldown

2) increase king mana to be able to stomp more

If we dont wanna nerf immo we could improve the other 2 spells this way. But for me is clear that something needs ti be done.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:26 pm
by KiwiKiller[QQ]
FadingSuns wrote:Other possible sugestions by me to balance king skills than this:

1) redue wave cooldown

2) increase king mana to be able to stomp more

LOL you want games to always end 31+ or what ? I mean, if we implement such things they will become way too op. I saw shockwave when it had reduced cooldown ( @broud3r ) and it was way too op. If mana is increased, shockwave will also be buffed (again), otherwise it will be easy to know what king skill enemy team has, as soon as you scout their king. Furthermore, more stomps = you kill satyrs with 5 stomps = just kill hermits and do your 5 stomps and it's easy no heal.

Also, if we reduce immo's range, it will become totally useless. I think the reduced change broud3r did in last version of the map was great and it is enough in my opinion.

!no support

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:41 pm
by broud3r
well personally iam still in favor of rising abilities per level.
e.g
immo starts(round 5) with 7 damage and gets + 0.5 each round so
8 damage on level 7
11.5 damage on level 14
18 damage on 27
stomp
40 damage + 3 each round
46 damage on level 7
67 damage on level 14
106 damage on round 27.
wave
75 damage + 7 damage - 0.3 cd per round
89 damage on 7 21.4 secs cd
138 damage on 14 19.7 secs cd
229 damage on 27 15,4 secs cd

took just random numbers without testing how it would affect the waves yet.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:44 pm
by FadingSuns
What about make king skill change randomly each level? Sounds extreme but can be nice i guess

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:14 pm
by Stiff_Maistar
Or maybe have immolation use mana per sec?

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:18 pm
by nukid
to me it feels like people having trouble enough to catch up to the new map, many games are beeing superwierd and i think it will take quite some more time to get accustomed to the recent changes. So discussing n all is great, but i would be careful with more changes...

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:48 am
by ILOCOS_NORTE
All right, people love the immo :)

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:24 pm
by Escaflowne
ILOCOS_NORTE wrote:All right, people love the immo :)


We totally do.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:39 am
by Cryptonox
Then immo would be weaker spell vs 7 than wave or stomp. No.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:20 am
by ILOCOS_NORTE
Cryptonox wrote:Then immo would be weaker spell vs 7 than wave or stomp. No.


Yeaaah, ... it wouldnt

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:13 pm
by Nore
We'll leave this up a few more days, but it doesn't seem that people are in love with this idea.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:26 am
by ILOCOS_NORTE
Nore wrote:We'll leave this up a few more days, but it doesn't seem that people are in love with this idea.


guess you can archive it.

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:57 pm
by godlik3
10 x 10 votes
as supersexy said on my thread, any modification that make game less lucky and more skill should be implemented!

Re: Further decrease range of immolation?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:06 am
by CreativeLP
godlik3 wrote:10 x 10 votes
as supersexy said on my thread, any modification that make game less lucky and more skill should be implemented!



So fair send?