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100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:32 pm
by AvadaKedavra
I made a post in the Fair sends thread after it got archived. I don't know if any people really saw it, or cares, but I'm gonna repost it in a new thread:

AvadaKedavra wrote:I was too lazy to write in this thread, cuz I kinda feel like it's a lost cause but... If we're going to implement "Fair Sends", could we at least consider a modified version specially for lihl? Maybe 3 lanes has to get a demon, but 1 dd is possible? Or krakens/behes still can split more randomly? Or is it gonna be 1 demon, 1 kraken, 1 behe and x amount of locks, every single game for eternity? If we remove too much of the randomness when sending, games will be too predictable I fear. Desperate holds almost impossible. Maybe something in between would be ideal?

I fully agree that triple demons on 15, or two double demons is lame as hell. But a single dd from time to time, or no behe/many behe, no kraken/many kraken etc. could still add some randomess while keeping it sane


Any thoughts? 1 Demon per lane, but rest of sends can split? Maybe 1 DD possible? I think the most frustrating part about splits in the current version is triple demons, and two double demons. I think we could keep a tad of randomness, while still making most people happy

Re: 100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:16 pm
by Jubadus
99% fair send with 1% chance all sends on 1 lane = twist, case closed, solved, no more mystery to unlock.

Re: 100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:25 am
by ILOCOS_NORTE
I think the most fair method to determine the sends distribution would be as follows:

If 4 demons 4 kraken 4 behe and 4 locks:

25% DD 50% DK 50% DB 63,33% TL (Tripple lock)

If 4 demons 4 kraken 3 behe and 1 lock:

19% DD 43% DK 12% DB 0% DL

If 3 demon 3 kraken 3 kraken 1 inf 3 locks:

16% DD 21% DK 21% DB 0% DI 43,33% DL

If 4 demon 2 inf 4 kraken 2 behe 1 lock:

27% DD 9% DI 45% DK 9% DB 0% DL

Based on this data, I made a formula:

Chance for DD [%] = (3*lg(basis 8)[(quantity of demons/players in one team)+(quantity of demons/quantity total sends)] - x)*100%

Note: Factor "x" can be between 0 and 3 while 0 = 100% chance for dd and 3 = 0 % chance for dd

=> formula for DK, DB, DI, DL accordingly of course.

Re: 100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:08 pm
by ILOCOS_NORTE
WAIT A SECOND

Thinking about it again something bothering me :?

Most LIHL players send nothing (@lvl15) "which what they think can cause a split" like commander, bowmen, militia etc. Once you send any of that stuff you get flamed for sure. So the sending team doing everything to prevent a split.

Lets see the team that is facing the sends. They do not want a split send beause of multiple reasons e.g. "holder has no demon, cant kill demon, 4 demons mid", "holder has DD, cant hold, 4 demons mid"

So while the sending team does everything to prevent a split (read above) the holding team does not want a split?

What I dont get now, who's the retarded one ???

:shock: :shock: :shock:

era lla uoy kniht I

Re: 100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:58 pm
by KiwiKiller[QQ]
I think that most fair method would be fair sends. End of story.

Re: 100 % Fair sends or maybe add a twist?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:50 pm
by FadingSuns
ILOCOS_NORTE wrote:WAIT A SECOND

Thinking about it again something bothering me :?

Most LIHL players send nothing (@lvl15) "which what they think can cause a split" like commander, bowmen, militia etc. Once you send any of that stuff you get flamed for sure. So the sending team doing everything to prevent a split.

Lets see the team that is facing the sends. They do not want a split send beause of multiple reasons e.g. "holder has no demon, cant kill demon, 4 demons mid", "holder has DD, cant hold, 4 demons mid"

So while the sending team does everything to prevent a split (read above) the holding team does not want a split?

What I dont get now, who's the retarded one ???

:shock: :shock: :shock:

era lla uoy kniht I


I actually try to send small auras and shit when i want to provoke split on enemy team.