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Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:53 pm
by smokedope123
If you misbehave in Dota 2 you will be flagged and are only able to play low priority matchmaking. I believe this penalty system is more balanced in terms of fairness.

If A gets unvouched for 24 hours, but is unable to play LIHL that day anyway, it's not really a punishment for A. B gets unvouched for 48 hours on a weekend, where he would've played 20 games and is punished much harder like this.

Instead of unvouching people for x time, we could give them x games on ent18 as a punishment.

In example, A breaks a rule and would normally be unvouched for 24 hours, but instead he will be unvouched and has to play/win 5 ent18 games, with good behavior and not disconnecting from the game. Once A accomplished that, he may be revouched instantly.

In my opinion this system is better, as everyone would be punished equally and I think no one of us enjoys playing ent18. This could then potentially lead to better overall behavior here.

Worth a try?

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:15 pm
by Jabba41
So you want to send people to play on a bot they most likely dont like, which will most likely end in a worse gaming experience for the team he plays with on ENT18 ?

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:29 pm
by Wolke
Yes, but ruine 10 games for your team including pp, flame, forget to build, racism (afd), fail kc.

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:32 pm
by smokedope123
As I said, they need to behave well these games and may not disconnect. Instead of playing x games, winning x games is another option of this suggestion.

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:19 pm
by Jabba41
Ent18 isnt a testing lab for LIHL moderation tasks.

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:25 pm
by Krocis
You can not force ppl to play on pub just coz they broke rules in lihl, dat doesnt have any point.

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:26 pm
by BoretkPanda
smokedope123 wrote:As I said, they need to behave well these games and may not disconnect. Instead of playing x games, winning x games is another option of this suggestion.


and who controlls this?

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:00 pm
by smokedope123
Krocis wrote:You can not force ppl to play on pub just coz they broke rules in lihl, dat doesnt have any point.


Technically you can and the point is a form of punishment for breaking rules. I mean if you don't want to play there, just do not break rules and your perfectly fine, right?

That's essentially what Valve does, no one wants to be placed in low priority matchmaking, their problem is just a report system that doesn't work flawlessly.

BoretkPanda wrote:and who controlls this?


On the stats page a moderator could quickly check, whether the required amount of games have been played / won.
Of course it would be too time consuming to check for good behavior and proper play in those games.
Making win a requirement would enforce proper play to some extend at least.
Bad behavior can get you reported.

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:17 pm
by Dong
this would be too much extra work for our mods, as i can only see it would be them that would "supervice" that the players play the certain amount of games or w/e. As to now, where you ban for certain time, and that's that. However much i like or dislike the idea. I don't want to give more work to our mods, as they do enough as it is. And we would like to keep them for as long as possible.

Donged-

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:03 pm
by nicolai123
smokedope123 wrote:If A gets unvouched for 24 hours, but is unable to play LIHL that day anyway, it's not really a punishment for A. B gets unvouched for 48 hours on a weekend, where he would've played 20 games and is punished much harder like this.


So you literally want to force people to play a game that they don't want to play? I would rather blow my brains out than play ent.18... Why don't you make me play 10 hours of Run Gay Run instead LOL.

This idea is so bad on multiple levels, and the reasoning for it doesn't even make sense.

For some people, playing ent.18 isn't even a punishment. No matter what system you put in place to punish people, some people will be hurt more or less by it. Unvouching people just happens to be the easiest. And its just not worth the effort, as people have already pointed out.

Is this secret plan by pwner to have an excuse to play on ent.18 with people on his own skill level without ppl mocking him?

And i STILL cant vote wtf mang.... add nicolai123 pls

Re: Suggestion

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:19 pm
by Anda
Polls are made by the moderation team, members can suggest them.

When Tom comes back we will get the Forumlist and unvouches on track. I dont want to do everything myself. ;)