This looks interesting

[supersexyy]

@beepboopbeep @ba_fail @any takers

http://legiontd.in-goo.com/t427-2-vs-2- ... rophet-341

[Diablo_]

lol ^^
I would like to play against them, but I'm on a 2 weeks vacation starting in 10 hours.

[HateLose]

Once I figure out who my partner will be, I'll respond to HuanAk. I'll be sure to take his accounts and retire him

[Furbolg.]

GL vs mh

[BA_Fail]

Would be fun even if they do maphack.

[Drahque]

Who are these people? On this forum they mention "PanicX" and "HighestIncome" to be the best LTD players.

Where do they play, since we haven't seen them in ENT or Lihl? Are they playing through Garena, or what's up?

[Drahque]

This guy "HighestIncome" seem crazy, you should check out his guide, he make it sound like he can reach 7/15 level 15/16 nearly every game: http://legiontd.in-goo.com/t429-legion- ... ical-guide

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First  of all, as you probably know, your current or final income doesn't depend only on you, which basicly means that i can't give you numbers that will tell you 'hey if u have 80 income on level 10, you are good'... so you are not trying to
reach specific numbers, you are fighting against other players, which means that if u have 50 income on level 15, and all
other players have 25, you did it well (of course 50 income on level 15 is hard fail, but it was an example, so you can understand
what i wanted to say). If you think that you are good einough and that you don't need income guide, i will give you numbers
(so you don't read all text) that i personally think good incomer should be able to achieve:


level 5: 25-35 incomes
level 10: 110-120 incomes
level 12: 180-200 incomes
level 17: 380-420 incomes
level 21: 700-750 incomes

Of course, it's always good to do better than this, but again it depends on many variables, as leakers or no, towers that you
have, and so on...

So what you actually need to have good income? The most important thing is to know all towers and their abilities. Of course,
there are good and 'bad' towers but your challenge is to do the best with what you have. It is obvious that you can't
income the same if you have, for example Goblin blasters or Apparitions as tier 5. Anyways, to make the complexity of this
easier for understanding, i will split game into 3 stages, and some substages. So lets start:


FIRST STAGE, EARLY GAME:

Early game is really important stage of the game, and specific, because u get a lot more gold than you actually need.
(for example you get 125 gold from level 1, and you only need 50 to reach recommended value for level 2, if you had 300 on level 1).
So what you do with all that gold? Of course, build workers and upgrade lumberjack!

First substage, levels 1-4:

This substage is important, in order to give you momentum that you need to income well in early stage of the game. By level 5
you should have 25-35 income, which is basically free worker every next wave. In order to have 25-35 incomes on level 5, you need
to build workers early on, even on level 1. So when game starts, you should immediately start building 1 worker, and then
try to beat level 1 with 250 or less value, which you can do with many many towers and combinations. Later on, on levels 2-3 you
should make 4/0 or 4/1 and if you reach that 4/1 or even 5/1 you are doing good. (if you leak few units during this, its not
a problem, it will pay off).

Secound substage, lvl 4-9:

In this stage you should start thinking about boss fight, and MID game itself, so again important substage for momentum in
MID game. In this part, you should max your worker count, which means that you should be able to build 7 wisps. Between
that, you should upgrade your lumberjack. On level 9 7/3 or 7/4 upgrade is good, but of course, you can do more. Your income should be
reaching 100 or in between 80-100 in this stage.

Third substage, levels 9-11:

As you probably know, this is the best time for upgrading lumberjack, because level 11 is kinda fail level. You can easily beat
level 11 with 1400-1500 value. In between levels 10 and 11 (including arena fight) your lumberjack should be like 7/6-7/8,
depending on what towers you have to start mid game battle. Your income on level 11 should be like 130-170 if you did it
well.


SPECIAL NOTES ABOUT EARLY GAME:

In order to reach income scores that i indicate, you will have to leak certain levels, including boss levels. Its not a
problem to leak even all 3 bosses, in order to have good income, it will pay off. You just should be careful and upgrade
your king, if your mates can't catch your leak.


SECOND STAGE, MID GAME:

Of course, most important stage of incoming, because what you do in mid game, will determen your value in lategame, and
probably game itself. In this stage you should finish your lumberjack upgrades. (7/15)

First substage, levels 11-14:

Because levels 11, 12 and 13 are specific, you should abuse that, in order to income. For example heavy tanks with normal
damage, beats level 12 easily, and some good pierce slashes level 13 easily. It is good to reach 7/9 before level 14, but if
you think that will make you leak full level 14, don't do that and stay on 7/8. Level 14, is hard, imbalanced so you should build
something for that specific level. (again, its not problem to leak 10-15 Tuskarrs if your king is maxed, it will pay off).

Secound substage, lvl 14-17:

Funny einough, but true, most important substage of the most important stage, is this one, between levels 14-17. This period is specific
and important, because you should finish your lumberjack upgrades in between. After level 14, never build towers for level 15,
because what beats level 14, beats 15 too. At this stage you should be near 300 income (level 15) and from gold+income from levels 14
,15 and 16 you should be able to finish 7/15.

[BeepBoopBeep]

Guide does not seem realistic even for LANCE

[Feor]

seems like a pub guide, where your opponents do not send coordinated. He pushes income way too early hoping that few leaks can be covered ( by allies in 4v4 i guess? )

[GoatsBeGone]

Not even with archers this is very realistic. 110 income on 10 isnt even possible if no leaks all game. this guide is pure shit..

[Drahque]

Oh lolz, looks like you guys got his legs shaking, at least he had to change the rules:

Well Hello. I am currently on vacation so i cant play in next 7 days. Due to spamming and fake accounts i changed rules about this challenge in order to prevent same people from challenging this multiple times in a short period of time. If you want to accept this challenge you will need:

1) 300+ games on some well known battle.net bot.

2) Checkable "!from" command string which means that i can check where are you from before game starts.

3) Same IP adress as your teammate.



If you have what i mentioned you can p.m. me here or on battle.net when im back from vacation. Rules WILL NOT be changed, so if you dont have what rules require dont waste both my and your time.

Best Regards, HI

Looks like bullshit, that 2 people needs same IP? And is he referring to Hate2Lose making fake account? Trololololol.

[supersexyy]

I just watched their first replay - these guys are pathetic rofl

[iightfyre]

At first I thought this guide was complete BONK. But.. in public games it is pretty fun to try and accomplish this task - it is not easy by any stretch and will fail lihl or tourneys guaranteed!

Still fun to try tho keeps public games interesting

[eldryan]

his guide is for uncoordinated sends, yes. if everyone sends all lvls, everyone can go 7/15 by 15.

[Drahque]

At first I thought this guide was complete BONK. But.. in public games it is pretty fun to try and accomplish this task - it is not easy by any stretch and will fail lihl or tourneys guaranteed!

// Agreed. But it might be able to be done in 4v4 in Lihl, if the others hold, but it is indeed quite risky, especially the first 10 levels. So king must be upgraded. But, it is for sure fun to experiment with in public!

Anyways, the big question is, how is it coming up with challenging this two fellows (HighestIncome + that other guy)? I'm really wondering, where these two; 'said to be best at LTD in the world', at least on their forums, are playing? They say UC and HI? Is this some clans or bots? Maybe over UC bots or Garena? I mean, it could be fun to watch a couple of games, where they reach 35 income at level 5 or 120 on lvl 10, because it is indeed close to impossible, unless people are leaking EVERY single level. ^^,