lying about modes

[BA_Fail]

So I was about to join a pub game to practice for the tournament and I told furbolg I wouldn't sign so I can practice for it. So every1 agreed to do hybrid so I signed, when game started they put prophet and furbolg tried to draw cause of his mistake but rest of west team didn't draw. So need to know wtf is this, is there some sort of punishment for this, and at the very least I want the game to be void.

[ChickenMadness]

ye same i was going to practice in a pub with fail for the tournament but signed because they said they were doing hybrid.

[Drahque]

Everyone didn't agree before we started game, that we were going hybrid. It's true that a couple of people was speaking about it in channel, but at no point did we make sure that EVERYONE was okay with -hpgm. Nobody told Furbolg pre-start or pre-level 1 to pick hybrid, which is also the reason he picked Prophet (cause he thought it was a regular game).

But most importantly, we played the regular -hpgmcb (mode) which is usually played in Lihl, where both team fair and square had EQUAL chances to win. You guys got your tournament team as wished, so I don't see anything wrong - except that you guys had bad rolls and wanted to draw.

[Feor]

They signed because the mode would be hpgm hybrid. They wouldn't have signed otherwise. Since noone said no about hybrid mode and some people said yes they signed, but host gave different mode.

People should draw as a manner of fair play, but apparently as the months go on, fair play and sportmanship seem to lose their way out of lihl channel and community.

[BA_Fail]

Everyone didn't agree before we started game, that we were going hybrid. It's true that a couple of people was speaking about it in channel, but at no point did we make sure that EVERYONE was okay with -hpgm. Nobody told Furbolg pre-start or pre-level 1 to pick hybrid, which is also the reason he picked Prophet (cause he thought it was a regular game).

But most importantly, we played the regular -hpgmcb (mode) which is usually played in Lihl, where both team fair and square had 50 % chance to win. You guys got your tournament team as wished, so I don't see anything wrong - except that you guys had bad rolls and wanted to draw.

I had furbolgs word and you guys did agree to it so stop lying. Furbolg knew it was supposed to be hybrid, yet another lie you're spouting, he in fact will say he knew it was supposed to be hybrid and its evident in the game, not sure why you lie in a situation where there is actually evidence to prove it.

I didn't have bad rolls, I wanted the right thing to be done and have the game drawn, when people say they will pick a mode and they lie about it, its just complete bullshit. I would of rather done a pub where I can practice for a tournament then do a lihl.

[EdgeOfChaos]

If you have proof, it's bannable. Lying about modes is against the general rules.

General rules
- Do not lie about modes

[Drahque]

a) Achillesgr did at no point agree to go Hybrid, making the right mode the -hpgmcb according to the rules:

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2. GAME MODES
Default game mode shall be selected as -hpgmcb with builder as prophet.
Alternate game modes such as -hpgm hybrid and -sdgmcb can be chosen only if 100% of the players in the game agree to it prior to the game starting.

b) Rules only enforces us to draw if a player disconnects prior to level 20:

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3. THE !DRAW RULE
If any player DC's prior to lvl 20 then it is mandatory for the remainder of the players to !draw the game immediately after the DC.
If a player DC's after lvl 20 then !drawing the game is optional.

c) Both teams had equals chances of winning, both teams risked losing, so there were no "unfairness" in the game, except that east apparently got outrolled.

when people say they will pick a mode and they lie about it, its just complete bullshit.

Nobody spoke about picking hybrid or promised anything after the game were hosted and neither in-game, and on top of that Furbolg never asked if everyone were okay with hybrid mode, so if he did go hybrid it would be against the rules - since you have to make sure everyone agrees on a mode, before it's picked.

[BA_Fail]

If you have proof, it's bannable. Lying about modes is against the general rules.

General rules
- Do not lie about modes

Thank you for posting that, was pretty sure that was a rule and I did tell them after the game or during the game, can't remember. I'm not too keen on banning these people but I for sure don't want this type of behavior especially in a league like this. I would just want the game to be void and a warning to all the people involved

[Drahque]

If you have proof, it's bannable.

I would just want the game to be void and a warning to all the people involved

There is no proof, we barely spoke before the game start (after it was hosted) and nobody said anything until the game were already hosted. Those there is no reason to punish us, for playing the mode that the rules tells us to and is being played 9999 out of 10000 games.

Yes, it's bad sportsmanship to pick another mode if everyone had agreed, but in this case, it wasn't done correct - we did never check if everyone was okay with choosing another mode. Another time, ask before the game is started or pause the game before the mode is picked, to ensure that everyone is okay with doing something else than the rules states.
- Otherwise, for example if we had gone hybrid and lost, Achillesgr could've asked for the game to be voided / deleted as well.

[supersexyy]

I don't know what chat took place in the channel. Did 100% of the players agree to hybrid?

[Drahque]

I don't know what chat took place in the channel. Did 100% of the players agree to hybrid?

In the channel 2 or 3 people spoke about going hybrid, but at no point did we check that all 6 players were okay with it. Which is also the reason that Furbolg picked -hpgmcb, since nobody told him to pick hybrid pre-start nor after the game were hosted.

[Feor]

c) Both teams had equals chances of winning, both teams risked losing, so there were no "unfairness" in the game, except that east apparently got outrolled.

I like the fact that you use bold for this argument, now go back and re-read what I said.

Rethink what you answered ( seriously until you learn how to read and understand what they tell you , don't bother answering. ) and edit your post or make a new one on the topic.

Since 2 people signed while under the illusion that people agreed on hpgm hybrid you guys (since some had last moment doubts about the mode ) could instead unhost the game and play without them ( still an even number that allows you to play ).

As I said sportsmanship and fair play has gone missing in lihl for long time now. Every spoiled kid thinks he owns the world and can not compromise for once in a game ( I am not saying compromise on your dreams not pursue them, but compromise and be kind to other people in freaking game. ).

[ChickenMadness]

The lies are stronk in this one. Much lying was done this day. @drahque

Why couldn't you just agree to draw and let us play in a public game? Don't get why you forced us to play that game when you could have just gone 2v2 without us. We told you we were going to join a public game to practice hybrid for the tournament. Then you trolled us by saying you would play hybrid and then wouldn't let us leave the game once it started and prophet was picked.

[Drahque]

c) Both teams had equals chances of winning, both teams risked losing, so there were no "unfairness" in the game, except that east apparently got outrolled.

I like the fact that you use bold for this argument, now go back and re-read what I said.

The reason I used bold, is because it's what matters the most to me - That we're playing fair and square and I like to put myself in the head of the opposite scenario as well:
- If east team had won, they would most likely not have posted about this or not bothered as much.
- If hybrid was picked and east team won, then Achillesgr had the rights to ask the same, since he didn't agree to hybrid.

The lies are stronk in this one. Much lying was done this day. @drahque

Why couldn't you just agree to draw and let us play in a public game?

I'm one of the most honest people that you could meet, it's in the nature of autism, often I'm that honest that I get to tell the truth in situations where it's awkward or not necessary. Like is happy for their new clothes and they ask me what I think about it, I would honestly tell if it didn't look good on them, even though it's not always appropriate.

Anyways, this topic is not about me, but the fact that Furbolg picked hybrid due to being miss-informed and Achillesgr never agreeing on doing something else than the rule states. If I had drawed or not, it wouldn't have made a difference, since Achillesgr refused to draw. So don't blame this on me, just because I'm the only one who actually speaks up.

[BA_Fail]

I change my mind, punish drahque for this. Instead of apologizing he tried to make what he did ok, and tbh its getting on my nerves.

I got this http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 795404.w3g , should be enough evidence that all of west knew it was supposed to be hybrid in game, unfortunately I can't prove that they all agreed it would be hybrid as I didn't know this would happen so I didn't get a screenshot of them agreeing. Seriously I expect better from people here, is that "easy elo" really worth it? Do you take advantage of situations like this just because you think you can get away with it, or do you honestly see nothing wrong with what you did?