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unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:57 pm
by godlik3
This is not the first time he team kill....but i never saw a team kill so bad on 4s...really...he tk me some times on 2s but i thought was ok cuz not all ppl knows how to play 2s good...
but this time omg...neither a 400 elo guy would play that bad....if u see we told him to not go polar ogre on 1...i saw he had copters and told him to sell it ( he said no stfu noob )
also hide harlots and built after....also sent on lvl 3 alone ( result on no leaks on other side and 5 they would leak 50 to king for sure )
man he just made all team mad and we lost the will to play the game...
i am sure fiji will reporrt him too...sony might and i think occupy already told me he tk him once...
too much mistakes, to much loss of elo, he doesnt listen to team he play by him self and he is a real team killer
i see no way he can keep playing on lihl for sure

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4350899

next gamae we won on 7 against him on wave 7 as him as a holder....lol...man if he doenst get unvouched i tell u i wont play with him so every time he is gonna be on my team i wont play or i swap ( i doubt anyone will accept him on hist team anyway )

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4350899 ( look at that man, its not possible play worst than that )

btw brave....i would happly draw the game if a noob team kill on ur team start to f** ur game...u guys want elo u can have it ( idc since u to pro and u think yolo strategie is for noobs ) go report me cuz i unhosted the game??LOL i needed afk and anyways i wouldnt play with arishok on my team ( yes i wouldnt )

LOLLL right next game ( i just saw the replay ) he was the holder with ygg and he couldnt make the 4th ygg on 7 ( gj making 3/0 ) and guess what that resulted??they lost on 7 ahhaha
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4351002

i can play with noobs and no experienced players that can accept they r not good and accept advices for other ppl, but really this guy cant!

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:38 am
by Arishok
So, the first game I have already expressed. 2nd I was team killer because i didn't held 80 leaks to king OKEY... IQ room temperature indeed, but what can i expect by 12 yo kid...

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:51 am
by GoatsBeGone
What's wrong with the world mama
People living like they ain't got no mama
I think the whole world's addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that will bring you trauma

Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you got to have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love y'all

Thats Black Eyed Peace guys, I really didnt have to type alot myself when i can find it all in the fine art of music


Ps. You know if we keep unvouching people, there will be noone left to play games right?

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:50 am
by Hutzu
I pity the LIHL mods at the moment. Hard decision they gotta make.
Yes, Arishok played highly sub-standard in that game, borderlining teamkill. If he neeeds (like he said) 2g for lvl 3, then send an archer and don't waste another 140 wood. Don't sit on 400 wood during lvl 8, making your team waste a heal. Play harlots and be the holder. That isn't just god.like's way to play, it is the current Meta played in lihl, if possible of course. But even if you want to play differently, the solo level 3 send and the wood-hording remains, which is definitely against the team. There is barely any teamtalk by you in any game, it seems to me. Tell your team that you need 2g, they might either send on 3 too changing their plan for you or ask you to send only an archer. But just sending on level 3 without any communications is just bad, there is no excuse for that. And neither is for sitting on 400 wood. They might not have played their best either, but I can somewhat relate to them. Seing those actions by you can throw off a player and make him do mistakes.
But god.like, you gotta keep your raging under control. It just makes you make poor choices and behave slightly childish. I wouldn't be surprised if you were to face some days being unvouched as well. You could have handled this situation way better. Without flaming, without power-abuse and without the trash-talk.
But in general I don't know how much bad feelings had piled up on both sides prior to that game.

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:38 am
by Arishok
WOW, Looks like you are his mod-friend right? If you really saw replay i held 1-7 wave without any heals, so tell me, why i should build mass harlots? They are garbage after these lvls... God... Don't tell me nothing about current meta. How many games you played in lihl? Also blue didn't held lvl 3 without send - Thats ok ye? Purple sent on lvl 9 solo - Again ok? I'm not sure if 400 wood safe heal, but It wasn't game breaking and not even close... We lost on 15 not because 1 heal down...

I will not deal with it anymore. It's just unbelievable ridiculous...

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:54 am
by Hutzu
I am not his mod-friend, but you are proving people's point here of not being able to take criticism. I may not have played as many games as you did, but apparently enough to know the current meta better than you do. The 400 wood would have definitely saved the heal and your solo lvl 3 send was just bad. I don't remember blue leaking (not saying he didn't), because I was baffled about your solo wyvern for no good reason. At lvl 9 people were already majorly pissed at you, because of you saving wood on lvl 8 and wasting a heal.

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:52 pm
by MarshMallows
So much childish bullshit in lihl. I thought people who played wc3 were mostly 20+ in age. Everyone is allowed have a bad game now and again as long as they try their best but being so rude is not okay.

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:21 pm
by Krumme
The saved heal lvl 8 would most definetely have changed the outcome of the game.
Having that extra heal for lvl 14 leaks (if east sent there) would have saved you = you could yolo send lvl 15 without no intend of holding 15 or 17 and that's why you sent lvl 13 because you knew you had no chance of surviving a lvl 14 send with the lack of heals.
Not building harlots or even flying machine is IMO a huge missplay as you could easily have held lvl 5 and 7 way better than you did - sure you "held" but weak send 5 and no send on 7 and huge leak lvl 8 regardless

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:31 pm
by MarshMallows
Not much point in more posts here telling people they were rude or played bad anymore I suppose. Best thing to do is think about the situation as mods and come to a decision and let people know, this has the potential to get super flamey. Plus Goats keep singing and it frightens my cat.

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:56 pm
by Muslim
arishok is good player not bad dont thing need unvoched

Re: unvouch arishok 100% sure about it

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:59 pm
by Diablo_
I don't see Arishok's actions as team kill/game ruin, see other thread.
Sending lvl 3 alone .. well not cool to see this but that's not banable.
Level 8 he controlled the king and I have seen many players not upgrading the king when they control him. And it's not obvious whether he could prevent a heal or not by upgrading, it would have been close (misjudging it also happens sometimes).

However, @Arishok , you seem to lack teamplay in many of your games. You often just play solo, don't talk, don't follow the team strategy, solo sending etc.
Be aware that such a behaviour can only be accepted to a certain extent and we will definitely look at such cases at the end of the season when unvouches are being done, so it would be nice if you could work on that.