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King control

Postby MichaelSong » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:56 pm

won't comment anything.
honestly, this tastay's king control was making me to pissed off.

Ground : He insisted he was lagging, but don't seems like lagging when he can type and don't let other teammates to king.( and lvl 20's bad king control was too long to be lagged that hard )

I asked our teammates yolo.style and artmas about their opinions, they also said very weird ^^ ( not only personal thought )
you should watch lvl 20

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Re: King control

Postby Diablo_ » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:05 pm

Can you say what he did? Did he control poorly (trying to tk?)? Did he juggle? Or what do you want us to check exactly :P
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Re: King control

Postby MichaelSong » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:11 pm

@Diablo_
He killed 10~15 archers first ( 40 wood ) when demon and kraken were alive, and after killing demon kraken, there were 4 turtles which hp were about 10% 15% 25% 60% each, he started to attack 60% king which was in middle.

if he was lagging, he wouldn't have that kind of descriptive king control killing archers first ^^ and next 60% turtle first. ( or if he was lagging, he should have let us king, but we couldn't touch him because he was on it for a minute )

We blowed all of our heals, almost to death ( going to below 10% after bowing all heals ) because of bad king control about 1 min. ( + I don't belive he was lagging cause he was typing well he was lagging, I didn't check DRM but seems like intentional)

P.S. he just massed only archers until lvl20, ( I won't say about building cause everyone has different thought, but this was also kinda seems like bad for me cause massing only archers in 7 low doesn't look good cause he did it after lvl 17 ( which opponent team didn't send , it was obvious they send 12-20 when they didn't send at 17 ) )

+ HE COMEBACKED to normal when I paused the game and called @Hutzu ( who was observing but afk cause he was having dinner )
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Re: King control

Postby tastay » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:14 pm

A very reasonable ban request I must say..

The ELO is getting to your head mate calm down

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Re: King control

Postby artmas » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:16 pm

Diablo_ wrote:Can you say what he did? Did he control poorly (trying to tk?)? Did he juggle? Or what do you want us to check exactly :P



Click on the king, he intentionally killed the archer and the other so first.

Wolf is what happened during the king to the control

Yet, to say that it did it in a lag tastay him.

Why tastay good at controlling the Wolf King would one intentionally trolling

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Re: King control

Postby MichaelSong » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:18 pm

@tastay
I don't give shit to elo, cause if you see my playing, my winning rate is only above 50%.

When I see you ping madly when achilesgr is building zeus above the building lane which Diablo_ informed players numerous time ( which could be banned if he pulls god.lik3's lane ), you said in ALL chat "it's bannable" when we didn't notice what were going on at first before we see his zeuss.

I don't care you and achillesgr playing in same lan, but I'm just trying to be polite you guys to be in same team. ( asking other players' opinion and try to swap with you two in same team )

However, this was challenge mode yolo.style against god.lik3 and
If you signed in to play challenge mode, and captains chose you guys sepreately, you must show your respect to other players who are playing, although you feel bad you're not same team with Achillesgr

I played numerous games recently and trying to see comments which Hutzu and Diablo_ are giving to newly vouched players, seeing replays to improve myself.
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Re: King control

Postby tastay » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:24 pm

Dude chill out this is getting out of hand

You control king every game and it is really bad but people don't report but if I lag once and don't hit correct units I should be unvouched?

Polite? Talking in boxes all game with your Korean friend who is also extremely rude?

If I wanted to critique players like you I could every game since you guys make huge mistakes but I don't because I'm over it yet you guys post some retarded ban request?

ps : I actually hate going king but most games I play people just tell me to king and even if my king is just average it is still better than yours..

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Re: King control

Postby MichaelSong » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:25 pm

My king control is bad? what a joke honestly.

I play king without any delay when I was using stomping, and using shift.

Only people who claim my king control is bad is tastay, armed you two guys ^^
ah ofc, achillesgr should also dislike my king control if you two guys dislike my king control yeah?

And keep this clean, I'm aguring about only your king control on last game's lvl 20 which you took 1 min and made us almost to lose.

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Re: King control

Postby Diablo_ » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:41 pm

I watched the replay now.
He first killed lowest turtle.
He then killed low solo Demon.
He then killed low solo Kraken.
He then attacks the second Kraken arriving.
Before it is killed one Lock is coming, which he takes down.
After that he lagged while not having any queues up (understandable since he quickly changed to the Warlock), and if you don't queue targets up the King will automatically attack the Archers in that situation, and that's what happened.
He then killed the second Kraken as fast as possible (with his lags) and had again a lag, which resulted in him attacking a higher turtle a few times before he could change to the lowest one and killed the remaining turtles the best way possible.

To sum up ... he simply lagged and did as good as he could in his situation. Whether or not he should take king ... well we don't know how his connection works. I usually control king but often have lagspikes which I can't predict for example. Same might go for him, I don't know.
Archiving, nothing bad done by him.

But I want to mention @tastay that such games (staying 7 6 and only massing Archers) can be seen as game ruining and might get you banned. And since we have seen bad manners from you pretty often already and you always came away with no or a very short ban I will be rather strict the next time something similar happens.
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