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Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:47 pm
by tastay
I think the current rule with disconnects should be changed because there is just too much room for abuse since a lot of people don't even care about ELO. Instead of the current rule where people lose ELO there should be some sort of warning system. Every disconnect incurs 1 warning and after 5/5 warnings the player gets unvouched and so forth. The same can be implemented for everything and a warning system with different amount of warns for different amount of offences can be implemented.
1 warn for disconnects
2 warns for illegal builds
3 warns for selling units to clog
etc etc
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:01 pm
by SLSGuennter
well, but there are players which dont care for getting unvouched for some time but pref to not losing elo, and would go to pp so.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:03 pm
by MichaelSong
agree with guennter
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:07 pm
by Diablo_
Yep Elo penalty was implemented because it seemed more effective than a temporary unvouch. And both together would be an overkill imo, so I also prefer a simple Elo penalty which I think reduces pp by 95++%.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:11 pm
by Berserkjaguar
you could think about something like 50 elo reduce, instead of only 20, to make it more worse to do so.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:55 pm
by ArMeDaNdDeAdLy
I personnaly find unfair for some people that rarely dc for example once or twice in a season to get dc penalty(unless they dont use proxxy).If dcs dont happen too often its all good but when a person keeps doing it there should be stricter penalties dc pen and unvouch or something similar.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:42 am
by Krumme
@berserkjaguar I dissagree - ultimately your ELO is an indication of your skill level and if you were to loose 50 elo +/- every time you dc it simply wouldn't be accurate and throw off the elo balance
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:46 pm
by Berserkjaguar
Krumme wrote:@berserkjaguar I dissagree - ultimately your ELO is an indication of your skill level and if you were to loose 50 elo +/- every time you dc it simply wouldn't be accurate and throw off the elo balance
you could add a 2 day banned for lihl games to the -20 elo then? that hurts, if you want to play every day and it doesn't do anything to the elo indication.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:20 pm
by HealByColor
-50 would be a disturbing loss i mean people lose power etc. I like what we have in place right now. Personally I dont post dc unless becomes a regular thing with a player.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:20 am
by iightfyre
The current DC Penalty values were discussed with the Red Admins involved. They have a big buy-in on ELO fluctuation and we had to put up a good fight just to get the DC Penalty approved as is. Adjusting ELO is not something that Ent wants to endorse at all and we should be grateful that we have the option set in place for us. It was a blessing that it got approved by the Reds and I don't foresee us having any ability to increase the numbers.
Just an FYI - this topic should stay focused ELO penalty vs Unvouch. And IMHO, the DC penalties serve their purpose well (reducing supposed PP's by a substantial amount; even though they clutter the forums and moderators time a bit)
Keep things the same.
Re: Suggestion [Disconnect change]
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:30 pm
by Diablo_
The current DC penalty system works well enough. Thanks for the suggestion, archiving.