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Wiki updates + more
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:57 pm
by Diablo_
Hello!
Art)y has been working on improving the
LIHL wiki lately and I would say he has done a great job with it.
You can now find the past season rankings in a whole new format and some additional information here:
CLICK MEHe has also added the creep bounty information sheet
here and you can find all vouched players + a link to their forum account
hereAll three links can be found in the wiki under
"7 Miscellaneous".On top of that he has created a
LIHL player group for the forums, consisting of all vouched players, and from now on only this group (=LIHL players) can vote in polls in our subforum.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:56 pm
by Krumme
I appreciate the work he puts into LIHL BUT "Total elo" in the General Statistic is pointless as it will be 1000 elo per player
Total Wins and Total Losses is kinda the same as half of the games played are being won and just as many lost
Idea's to improve it could be something like Players above 1000 ELO, Average ELO above 1000 elo or something like "Best Winrate compared to amount of games" (too much?) anywho something with winrate could be cool or interesting stuff like knowing who won the most above 15 elo games (games in which your team are the lowest elo)
Just brainstorming here - anything you'd like to add would be cool really (big fan of statistics)
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Anywho great fucking job all around - much appreciated
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:00 pm
by aRt)Y
Well, I already heard that the general statistics are kind of trivial except perhaps for total games. However, you can consider them as place filler for now until we find some useful data - something I am totally open to and already asked others, as well. Feel free to suggest some ideas.
Regarding Win/Lose, the issue is, it wouldn't only be the win/total games ratio but the game number. Someone who lost one game and only played one in the entire season has a lose rate of 100% while someone with 100/300 has a lower lose rate. Same for Win rate. It seems out of proportion. So unless you find me a good way to calculate this, I dont see it happen :s
tl;dr; General stats are change-able, feel free to submit ideas.
Edit: In the information section on the seasons page, you will see the online spreadsheet with all the data. Feel free to play around with it, you might get creative. :P
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:23 am
by eldryan
while this is cool and all, it'd be much more informative to have player profiles - total games played, average ELO, w/l, each season rankings, etc.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:39 am
by pewpew lasergun
ty looks neat ^^
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:31 am
by aRt)Y
eldryan wrote:while this is cool and all, it'd be much more informative to have player profiles - total games played, average ELO, w/l, each season rankings, etc.
Well, after all, it's a wiki. To provide such a service, I would need a website with a database behind it to pull the stats. Displaying the seasons on the wiki works because they are static, while changing 80+ profiles with 5+ data fields manually every season is not necessarily worth the work.
But perhaps we find a better way to realize this feature.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:37 am
by eldryan
Changing them every season would be adequate, as just looking at current season stats is simple. In terms of using an SQL database, you could just write a program to declare a file for each player 1-200 or whatever (including old players of course) and call their stats. It doesn't have to be nearly this in-depth, really:
https://entgaming.net/openstats/ , as there's no need for any dynamic stats - just update every 3 months.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:14 am
by aRt)Y
After a little spreadsheet magic, I am ready. At the moment, I have:
Seasons Played, Average Rank, Average ELO, Total Games, Total Wins, Total Losses, Win Rate
of all seasons they played in.
Any other things which would be interesting?
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:55 am
by archol
Holy crap achilles 650 games at season 6 rofl, how much he had in all the season together haha
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:24 am
by Diablo_
Maybe also highest rank and elo.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:14 pm
by aRt)Y
Diablo_ wrote:Maybe also highest rank and elo.
I will need a bit more time figuring that out, however, the rest is done:
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntG ... IHLPlayersEdit: There's still an error in the calculation which I saw some days ago. The season rankings had doubled names (e.g. twice diablo in season 1), causing his seasons played number to be 9 instead of 7. Would be good if the mods could list me which duplicates to remove.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:25 pm
by Diablo_
Yea those double accounts exist if the game was started without being spoof checked.
You can delete these doubles:
Season 1:
44 n/a diablo_ 983.9
Season 4:
37 helekiller 986.78 1 0 1
Season 5:
26 jahcoozi- 1015.25 1 1 0
Other seasons are correct. The total games of season 6 is also wrong btw.
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:47 pm
by aRt)Y
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:27 pm
by Krumme
Another cool thing to be able to do is to push
"Vouched Account Forum Account Seasons Played Average Spot Average ELO Total Games Total Wins Total Losses Win Rate"
as in if you push "vouched account" it list from A-Z, push it again and it reverses Z-A
Same goes for Forum Account
Seasons Played with highest played to lowest and the other way around
and basically the same with the rest with highest to lowest and the other way around if clicked again
Re: Wiki updates + more
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:53 pm
by aRt)Y
@Krumme Unfortunately, that's technically not possible on the wiki. However, please visit the online spreadsheet (
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntG ... nformation).