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Clog rule?
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:38 pm
by Krayyzie
May I ask how the current clog rule works?
Just wondering about todays 3 day ban on law3
The team he was in had 2 holders, and he suicided. (365 inc..till end of 8?), but the team had 2 holders and only leaked to king on level 7?
In which was does this go under clog? and in which way is it worth a 3 day ban when game after game after game people in 4s go 7/3 7/4 7/3 7/3 with 600ish value for 7/8 and leaking 100 units on 7 and 70 units on 8 even vs no send and gets away with it?
East team clogged way less than the average game of lihl in 4s in this game, does this ban mean that everyone suiciding after 10 can also expect a 3 day ban?
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:50 pm
by nabo.
Law suicides with 1 spawn 1 witch heal doc.
lvl 7: 72 leaks on law's side. 83 leaks on opponent side.
lvl 8: 45 leaks on law's side (1300, 940, 1300, 365 values: 2 hold 2 leak). 43 leaks on opponent side.
lvl 9: 49 leaks from law. (1600, 1140, 14800, 365 values)
lvl 10 (1940, 1480, 1800, 490 values)
I dont see any bannable clog or efforts to clog as a team.
Since law's all other teammates had decent value and only he suicided, looks like a normal sui ltd strat. But, it is also true that he had spawns which could hold pretty well.
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:04 am
by RadiantCrystal
I agree with nabo. As long as there is no clog as a team, I think it can be overlooked.
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:54 am
by MrNoob
That was kinda really overtaken decission from
@Ba_fail. He was in my team and and he knows quite well how it worked. The only reason i suicided is because i had no towers but Doctor after reroll spawn. Plus as far as i know Suicide of 1 player is not abuse? I had to use 100 or 150gold Reroll(dont remmeber) at Arena so i can start build something good! By 17 i had nearly 4000 value so it wasnt that bad after all...
AND NOT TO MENTION WEST TEAM LEAKED MORE UNITS THAN US ON 17 FROM OUR 13-17 SEND! (int trying to clog!)
I would like this to be reconsidered
@Kerro @RadiantCrystal @V1rus @Ba_fail @nabo
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:57 am
by Miyagi
There is a difference between suiciding because you have fucked up somewhere and cannot recover with your current role, and choosing to suicide from level 1, by only building 2 units until level 10.
If that is the situation, then I think there should be a rule to prevent such suicide tactic, as this is nowhere near a normal "suicide strat" What is the point in playing at all if you're just going to make 2 units for the whole of pre 10, and just spam your wisp/lumber button. This sort of meta should be abolished from LIHL.
Most suicide strategies are played with "Yolo" units such as Aqua, Engineers, Prisoners.. Units which are capable of holding early levels from 1-6, and can do good at levels such as 8, 9 while still retaining respectable value and allowing to push your lumber that extra more.
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:00 am
by BA_Fail
I will unban then since technically it isn't clog, although it is a bad way to play and shouldn't be seen in an in house league.
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:20 am
by MrNoob
I don`t know how
@Miyagi dares to talk since his team is the one who TRUE Clogged lvl 17 vs us. U leaked 60+ units when we send 7k lumber TOTAL in 4s. U all focused Level 20 (incase we survive 17 so we cant finish u 20) And just decided to delay and leak hard 17 if its race anyway.
I dont know why u put Aqua,mortar yolo ETC near pure Suicide wich is 100% advantage for enemy Team. Its ur fault u didnt take advantage of it( cuz u lack skills and brain)
Yes, i made mistake in 4 with leaked 20 units wich caused me to Suicide the game( it wasnt planned from lvl 1 as u decided to write) What was the point to build an harpy for lvl 5 ( to become 400 value) and another 1 for 6 7 etc???
Many players lately write Wrong things however they want to just to proove they are right for themselfs. Im sick of this... You either say nd show True facts or u keep quiet. Stop making things on ur mind and putting them like its true.
Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:36 am
by Miyagi
@MrNoobTrue words of wisdom coming from a person who is considered "Clog Master" by the community.
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(15:13 / Allied) Law3: im literally
(15:15 / Allied) Law3: too tired to play
(15:18 / Allied) Law3: so i just suicided
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Re: Clog rule?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:41 am
by BA_Fail
If you really see nothing wrong with this type of playing, I don't know what to say. I have made a poll for you guys to vote on, putting in archive since it's getting derailed