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PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:48 pm
by godlik3
!ff should be used only if u not on the wave that u gonna lose
they are using it to snipe places for next game, and i also worry about the elo mess up thing.
plz make the rule not allowing people to use !ff on the wave that they are gonna die!
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Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:50 pm
by nabo.
...they are using it to snipe places for next game, and i also worry about the elo mess up thing....
I dont see the issue if !ff passes and people quit the game?
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:24 pm
by godlik3
yes but they are using to sign faster than the other team
so its unfair.... when they ff we all w8 the king to die on the current wave, so they snipe spots for next game!
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:33 pm
by nabo.
Is 5-15 seconds difference a big issue?
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:41 pm
by Miyagi
When the other team !ff I'm pretty sure you do not have to wait for their king to die in order to win the game. You are victorious, when they forfeit the match and get auto disconnected from the game.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:00 pm
by Diablo_
You have to stay 10ish seconds ingame, while the team forfeiting will sign for the next game. That's abusive and unfair. !ff should just be removed again, it's not needed anyway.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:24 pm
by RadiantCrystal
Why did we put ff in the league anyway? Should never give up until the last second as a league player
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:37 pm
by V1rus
>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)
!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)
However...further steps will be taken.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:43 pm
by RadiantCrystal
V1rus wrote:>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)
!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)
However...further steps will be taken.
So if they ff, there won't be any bans imposed on cloggers or what is this case here
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:49 pm
by supersexyy
Why would you ban a team that forfeits lol???
All these rules from the nabo/arty implementation are I'll conceived and thankfully nearly all have been reverted. Hope the new mods can come up with some nice changes.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:35 pm
by RadiantCrystal
V1rus wrote:>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)
!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)
However...further steps will be taken.
We don't even have specific rules and definition on clogging in LiHL so how to justify FF is still a question. Of course, the clogging rule for pub is not very appropriate here because the league is quite different.
Also "abuse clog" still lacks a general definition as well
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:39 pm
by nabo.
supersexyy wrote:Why would you ban a team that forfeits lol???
All these rules from the nabo/arty implementation are I'll conceived and thankfully nearly all have been reverted. Hope the new mods can come up with some nice changes.
Ya right. Lets not go into detail how this league turned out because of you.
And no, that rule came from nore. As far as I remember, you also suggested people should forfeit when they clog.
We are getting offtopic. Leave clogging out.
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Deal with the few seconds after !ff passes or we can ask uak to delay the disconnection for losers or something, so winner and losers leave the game at similar time. I have PMed uak. Will update when I hear a response.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:43 am
by HealByColor
What nore said this is very simple solution surprised it took this many post to come up with that...
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:21 am
by pewpew lasergun
there is some few instances where a team wants to actually forfeit
I think just ban its use during a send round. that should fix the issue of signing.
Re: PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:31 am
by BA_Fail
Wow, you guys are really creative. I used to be against the forfeit command but now I approve of it.
I just like how you all feel entitled to a spot for the next game, despite the fact that there were other people waiting in lobby.