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draw abuse report

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:00 pm
by godlik3
played freaking 46 min and they draw the game because ppl doesnt like to play after 20?
wtf is that? spent almost 1 hour for nothing...me and stathis didnt agree with draw and still they did it
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6461491

LIHL RULES:
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntGaming:LIHLGuide

Once a game has been hosted, all players are required to play the game out until one of the kings dies.


I dont want any one banned here.
I just want to make CLEAR that if ONE player doesnt agree on a DRAW, the game SHOULDNT be drawed!
And to make clear for shrimp to not enter on a discussion where he doesnt belong or i will start rage that kid a lot!

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:13 pm
by SLSGuennter
I have to agree with godlik3.
The game should be finished as long as nobody dc's, and after 20 u may even finish when somebody dc.
Drawing a game cause "dont wanna play after 20" while 2 players want to keep playing seems shitty.

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:44 pm
by supersexyy
Is that the actual reason why people drew the game??

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:09 am
by SLSGuennter
Yes it kinda was @supersexyy (though even worse thoughts by clearfluids ...)
After teams hold:
Spoiler!
(43:13 / All) clearfluids: !draw
(43:13 / All) Achillesgr: Player [clearfluids] has voted to draw the game. 5 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(43:18 / Allied) tariq.td: !draw
(43:18 / All) Achillesgr: Player [tariq.td] has voted to draw the game. 4 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(43:18 / Allied) Achillesgr: dont draw
(43:20 / Allied) Psyclone: !Draw
(43:20 / All) Achillesgr: Player [Psyclone] has voted to draw the game. 3 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(43:22 / Allied) Achillesgr: man
(43:25 / Allied) Achillesgr: i am 7/15
(43:27 / Allied) Braveheart_wins: mm
(43:31 / Allied) xfiend: !draw
(43:31 / All) Achillesgr: Player [xfiend] has voted to draw the game. 2 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(43:36 / Allied) Braveheart_wins: !draw
(43:36 / All) Achillesgr: Player [Braveheart_wins] has voted to draw the game. 1 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(43:37 / Allied) clearfluids: !undraw
(43:37 / All) Achillesgr: [clearfluids] recalled vote to draw the game.
(43:54 / All) clearfluids: we rly draw
(43:55 / All) clearfluids: ?
(44:08 / All) tariq.td: i am ok for draw
(44:15 / Allied) clearfluids: red 7/15
(44:21 / Allied) clearfluids: !draw
(44:21 / All) Achillesgr: Player [clearfluids] has voted to draw the game. 1 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(44:21 / All) tariq.td: 31 game not lovely
(44:26 / Allied) Achillesgr: 27 it is
(44:29 / Allied) clearfluids: draw
(44:33 / All) clearfluids: ya too much time
(44:34 / Allied) Tom_Hardy: i kinda wanna play this out
(44:40 / Allied) god.lik3: IF U SAY TO SEND 27 I QUIT NOW
(44:40 / Allied) Achillesgr: 28
(44:43 / Allied) Achillesgr: man
(45:07 / Allied) Tom_Hardy: whatever
(45:09 / Allied) Tom_Hardy: !draw
(45:09 / All) Achillesgr: The game has now been recorded as a draw. You may leave at any time.


Action by clearfluids sucks quite hard imo ... first he starts the draw, then undraws and after realizing achill is 7/15, he draws. zzz
(44:15 / Allied) clearfluids: red 7/15
(44:21 / Allied) clearfluids: !draw

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:39 am
by MarshMallows
if 2 people dont agree is it even possible to draw? also you used to unhost games where u didnt like ur team all the time. I dno how you operate now, maybe u have more honor now.

Most people dont like to play after 20 when both teams are fat cos is just comes down to who splits worse on 27/31 depending on the save length.

how did draw happen with two people not agreeing?

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:59 am
by Krayyzie
For my own personal thoughts I also wanted to play this out, but a fact is tariq is part of this game, which made me finally vote draw as i thought 5-6 players already drawed. Main reason I drawed was because there is...about 98 % chance that this game would last for another 2-5 levels before tariq lags out as he lags when games get close to 20, and after 20 it increases alot.

Since 5-6 players already drawed and there was an insanely big risk that we would waste another 10-15 mins, then finish it 3v4 or draw after 10-15 mins, why not do it right away... But I do kind of agree, if someone wants to keep playin the game should be played out..

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:25 pm
by cam_breezy
it us unfair but godlik didnt exactly say NO DRAW during game. there is no recorded chat of him disagreeing to the draw until after its done. Usually if u dont want draw u would say something as its happening.

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:15 pm
by SLSGuennter
Achilles said he dont want draw, so godlik3 dont need to tell the same at all ...

(43:18 / Allied) Achillesgr: dont draw

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:14 am
by V1rus
I agree with god.lik3 and achilles

This game should have not been drawn... Especially some players obv had some tactical reasons for it aswell (which rly sucks)

(quote)
Action by clearfluids sucks quite hard imo ... first he starts the draw, then undraws and after realizing achill is 7/15, he draws. zzz
(44:15 / Allied) clearfluids: red 7/15
(44:21 / Allied) clearfluids: !draw

Currently there are no rules which prohibit draw etc. (the you one posted godlike is more about a single player and dodge) so we need to work out something else.
I will discuss this topic with the lihl mods and decide what actions should be taken (probably for future games mostly).
Feel free to continue to share your thoughts and solutions here. I leave this topic open until further notice.

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:17 am
by nabo.
Will see if we can change the !draw vote requirement.

And whether we can do something with obs/refree being included in votes.

Re: draw abuse report

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:48 pm
by nabo.
Update:

-Everyone's vote will now be needed to draw a game (8/8, 7/7, 6/6, etc). If someone is game ruinning or afk, feel free to vk first then initiate a draw vote.

-obs can no longer vote (or votes are ignored).