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this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:05 pm
by godlik3
as @broud3r said u can still clog on this map
mostly on wave 15...so since u can clog why not just come back with the old one...
there is a replay ppl leaking 76 on 15 and 1 heal behind against the other team with 1 more heal and stomp and still they won

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6623244

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:12 pm
by nabo.
We never said clog is completely gone. Just significantly reduced. Havent watched the replay.

Stop crying that map is a fail. You are annoying. Instead see if @halibel can do something.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:14 pm
by godlik3
i have an idea for the map editors
can u give the wind walk ability for units after 14?
i mean like if u leak 70 centaurs they can all hit the king...and demons etc

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:17 pm
by Don_Killuminati
It was not about units clog mid, but since 60creeps leaks, they stuck around king.
U can see on replay, west leaked even more faster on king even if they leaked a lot 60+.
But hard to fix creeps stucking around king, since it's happends also on 7.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:30 pm
by broud3r
cant be fixed without changing units behavoir or sends range which would result in chaos and adjustments on unit balancing.
its just round 15 and i had this problem 2 times during my last 500 games on this map. so why would you even think about reverting the map i enjoy this version way more then the old one.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:49 pm
by Diablo_
Imo this map is great and solves the clogging issue to 99%. If it comes to an "unfair" outcome once in a hundred games ... who cares ^.^

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:25 pm
by Don_Killuminati
yeah diablo_, map is pretty good , compare to the old one.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:15 pm
by Dong
Diablo_ wrote:Imo this map is great and solves the clogging issue to 99%. If it comes to an "unfair" outcome once in a hundred games ... who cares ^.^


i totally agree.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:48 pm
by 1007
how about deal pre start game
"no delay'
'need 50%recommend value after 10'

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:09 pm
by Don_Killuminati
50% value recommend avoid suicides build, and can make same issues that we had before with the old map, maybe 'no delay' can work, but i don't feel like it's a recurrent problem.

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:25 am
by tastay
lose one game

complain

both maps were fine

just requires different strategies

only thing that changed was a slight meta shift

Re: this map is fail....clog still there

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:26 am
by supersexyy
Looks like a rage thread with no discussion value.