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Random team poll

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:01 pm
by dweiler
I tried a poll here (https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=86354).

But the current Elo gain/win loss is different than I thought and I think it is hard to see how it works. That's why this poll is only about +15/-15 or Matchup based. If the latter is chosen, we can see during the season if it needs tweaking with random teams.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:45 am
by Lord-Miles
I like random system , but prefer to play for the real elo , not 15/15 at all.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:38 am
by milfhunter96
well i like random teams but without any balancing it suxx :O had so many 3/27 games this season.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:40 am
by dweiler
I understand why people would want games to reflect the teamskills a bit, but I still voted for +15/-15, because:
1. Activity. More activity for top players and in other option people will start dodging/become inactive way sooner.
2. Drama. In other option people will start complaining about match-ups and Elo gain/loss sooner.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:52 am
by Diablo_
I agree with Mick.
15/15 will eliminate some problems and people can purely focus on the game itself instead of checking !scores every time and thinking/complaining about the Elo on stake etc.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:30 pm
by Lord-Miles
Diablo_ wrote:I agree with Mick.
15/15 will eliminate some problems and people can purely focus on the game itself instead of checking !scores every time and thinking/complaining about the Elo on stake etc.



Yeah but there is lot of games like team 1 is only top players and team 2 is just bot players which make no sense really , thats why id like to play random teams but lets make it playing for the real elo ...

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:21 pm
by milfhunter96
Lord-Miles wrote:Yeah but there is lot of games like team 1 is only top players and team 2 is just bot players which make no sense really , thats why id like to play random teams but lets make it playing for the real elo ...

i totally agreee

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:35 pm
by FadingSuns
Seems the only option to make everyone happy is random teams + autobalance. I voted "real elo" but in fact i dont rlly care much about the outcome.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:24 pm
by Don_Killuminati
Can it be like past elo system min10/20max elo games + random teams ?
Matter with true elo is you gonna play some games for 3elo so ppl gonna more be able to dodge lobby ect..
15/15 random teams delete elo system, as we played this season, so its points system and only matter is ur win/loses difference but still fix dc penalities which i dont think its appropriate for pts system.
no vote yet

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:50 am
by dweiler
The poll will be open until tomorrow evening, so anyone who hasn't voted yet and still wants to should do it soon.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:12 pm
by SLSGuennter
I voted for "matchup-based elo" aswell, BUT not calculated like in the old system ... would be to hard playing 5/25 games all the time.
Could even happen that a guy with negative win% goes to be top10 :D
Maybe it could be maxed by 10/20, or (i think thats even better) the algorythm could be changed, so a former 25/5 game now is a 21/19 and a former 20/10 is a 18/12 and so on. Thats ez to calculate/code.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:27 pm
by supersexyy
5/25 haven't existed for multiple seasons fyi...

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:48 pm
by archol
supersexyy wrote:5/25 haven't existed for multiple seasons fyi...


I remember how i and Fiji lost about 100 elo in 4 games on the same day in a row (2v2) - was quite funny and stupid either.

Re: Random team poll

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:35 am
by dweiler
Okay, clear victory for Match-up based Elo. I will see what I can do :)