ELO adjustment

[HugMeOnce]

I think bot went down no elo given for this game

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8051021

[pewpew lasergun]

i think i lost that game, i dont support
u need red to do it, and they usually dont.
maybe pm them.

[Dong]

Pff " pm "

@art)y @nabo. Assistance is reguired me lords.

Dong-

[TinSoldier]

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8079996

elo for this game didn't count either.

really need a policy change for elo adjustment as i know we need a red mod to do these, and they haven't done this in the past but this becomes a problem when its consistently happening every season.

[aRt)Y]

Unless you can provide a quota for the season, I dont see why we should do this. We dont adjust stats for any game - lihl is no exception.

[MarshMallows]

That's not true, dc penalties

[aRt)Y]

That's not true, dc penalties

You know just as well as I that we arent talking about that... Besides, the league moderation handles that.

[MarshMallows]

Why aren't we talking about that? he wants elo for a game where he didn't get elo due to a bot malfunction. I don't think he cares about getting a +1 win stat? Just wants the missing elo, same idea as a dc penlty unless I am mistaken?

[aRt)Y]

You get your ELO adjusted as a form of punishment (which we are strongly against, actually, as it is a form of stats manipulation). However, everything works as intended. The bot not giving you ELO is not intended but without any major network issue we wont touch them.

Difference: former is desired, last is not. If it's just about ELO, the lihl moderation can decide for itself whether they wanna treat it as DC pens, too.

[Diablo_]

The main difference is that we have a tool to automatically apply dc penalty (we just have to enter the game id basically) while adjusting stats for a non recorded game would (at least as far as I know) need manually adjusting the stats in the database for every player in the game which is more work and also error-prone (entering a wrong number and such).

Since reds still follow their not-adjusting-stats policy (which is understandable) there's nothing we can do, so archiving this.

I've said it some time ago already, I think this problem can only occur if
a) someone leaves short before the king has died or
b) everyone leaves the game really fast after the king has died (all leaving within 1-2 seconds).

Of course a) can easily be prevented and is also banable but b) is troublesome as everyone wants to leave as fast as possible to not miss the next game.

[Don_Killuminati]

Unless manual adjustment require a lot of work, so sad ent managment doesnt deal with it which the +15/-15 is totally deserved for both side.
I agree with work argument but im not with error-prone one which it would happends with a lot of repetition of process which its not the case there since its happends like 1/100+ games.
Imo, this thing have more significance to be fixed than dc pens which we already know dc's can be overexploited to end with 1000elo and 85w/110l at the time when scores was 15/15 for all games.
The only thing that would explain to not adjusting such games gliched is that games arent balanced and it would be hard to find the corrrect scores at the moment of the game.
Not dealing with it, would promote someone who discovered how to make it happends at least 10% of his games ..