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unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:05 pm
by tariqtd
hallo guys

first of all i hope that you are doing fine as well ,

i just read one topic and it make me really sad and I think the judgment was unfair as well { with all respect for diablo_ }

if we start a game with ea + aqua + spirit + lets say one dead line units ...... that happens like 90% of games not evrygame have holder

what is this kind of call lets king from 1 to 5 ???????

and what if we have immo ? and why not send 2 time before 5 to gain times for our hard yolo units ....... but lets king from lvl 1 is hard tk call

i will never follow such order like that unless there is reasonable reason i guess hold and ob or yolo is types of play depend on towers we have .

at the end we are not same person and we play differently as well , you can find between us some brave guys and some ppl play pussy style ....

and when jason did not follow this he will unvouched 12 hour ?? i can find many games for our best players they tk as hell and we do not report each other for this kind of reasons , and when jason did mistake you report him that is wrong very wrong

i know jason well i knew you all and i am proud to have many of you as friends but i can not see unfair happened to the most mannered person

please vote i wanna to know am i wrong ?

salam my brother and thanks for your time
tariq.td

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:18 pm
by TinSoldier
i think this is jasons first offense of this type and he is easily one of the most well mannered players in the league i think he should be given a warning as opposed to unvouch

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:19 pm
by magicpotatoes
I can only agree with tariq on that, imo this call should be banned, not the solo send. Also 1st offense in more then a year vouched, warning was prob enough.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:35 pm
by AvadaKedavra
He writes in team chat "I will solo send, I dont care" and proceeds to solo send. If this is allowed because he is "A nice guy" we're bending the rules for a specific player. Tariq u talk about mistakes. it was NOT a mistake. He did it on PURPOSE. Get it?

If I did this in a game "idc bout team" and started solo sending there would be a shit storm.. Imagine if eld did it? U guys would not be writing this in that case. So please stay unbiased and focus on the offense, which is clear.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:44 pm
by 1007
so i just saw chat log
im rly surprised ava talked exactly same as like me
i understand ava and i understand jason too
ava he knew current game meta
and wanted just save heal 7 and 2x suicide after 10 ea stay low cover lv14 free win lv 15(if st8 king enemy have to stay low and game fast no inc value for lv 15)
but problem is i only call st8 king(even ea,aqua)when i play with my 'men' aka henchmens(100%trust)
jason is not your 'man' thats why he upset
and thats why i understand him he can resist dogmatic call

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:45 pm
by eldryan
AvadaKedavra wrote: Imagine if eld did it?

just look at the thread. ppl already complain about "solo send", even no evidence when I ask them to post it. I have solo sent because of lack of agreements at times, and I think everyone does it occasionally... even those complaining about it. unless it's uber tk solo send, like send demon solo lvl 16 or something, it's not really a huge offense.

about the call, obvs if 3/4 agree on it can't say it's so terrible. just disagree.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:10 pm
by FadingSuns
Im not gona follow this call ever so u better not do it with me on team.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:01 am
by Jason-
Just for clarification:
Fiji wasnt full on game and you lied as you said Team wanna up King. I said i DONT want. Then you didnt want sent 1 or 2 as we asked for instead you upped king without all agrements. Please, Mick Diablo_ check the replay.
So please unvouch Avada also for no Team play.
Thx

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:41 am
by dweiler
I don't really understand the fuzz. Jason solo sent after 3 players said to up king, and he got a tiny warning unvouch for it. Yet when I look at this thread I feel like Diablo_ violated some human rights or something. It's hard to moderate if every decision you make is watched with Argus' eyes.

I am going to close this as the unvouch period has passed.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:28 pm
by FadingSuns
There was just 1 player saying to do that. Other 2 players didnt mind to send or up. One player disagreed. Im disagree 100% for this call, and a call should be always accepted by all members, at least this kind of shitty calls should. I rlly disagree with how this has been took, and im rlly afraid im gona be unvouched if avada calls this shit on my team having eas aquas and etc. So plz dont créate dangerous precedents.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by dweiler
Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.


(01:21 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: team wanna king lvl 1-5?
(01:23 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: regen
(01:24 / Allied) RoseThorn: sure
(02:19 / Allied) ZTX)Fiji: always up for something diff =)
(02:22 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: jj
(02:23 / Allied) AvadaKedavra: go regen
(02:28 / Allied) Jason-: i send her
(02:29 / Allied) Jason-: e

I am not sure in which way the rule violation is not clear, unless you disagree with the rule and then you are welcome to make a suggestion for a change.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:43 pm
by FadingSuns
So cooperate is follow avadas words only?. If JAson ask to send 3 they also say "sure". It was Avada only forcing, and he has try to forcé calls with me previously also, and im just saying that a call should be accepted by all team members becuz in this case it was not at all. And i just dont want to have the same case on my skin when Avada does such tk call, other 2 ppl dunt care and i clearly refuse the idea. So yes, if u want a new rule: "every call should be accepted by ALL team members" then if u are a good leader u need to convince them or just find a new call where everyone agrees. Becuz in that game specifically is not as Rose or Fiji refused any other idea as Avada did. Avada just wants his TK calls or nothing, talking in the name of the rest. The ban u gave to Jason was pure sad.

Re: unfair judgment agenst Jason-

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:46 pm
by dweiler
FadingSuns wrote:So cooperate is follow avadas words only?. If JAson ask to send 3 they also say "sure". It was Avada only forcing, and he has try to forcé calls with me previously also, and im just saying that a call should be accepted by all team members becuz in this case it was not at all. And i just dont want to have the same case on my skin when Avada does such tk call, other 2 ppl dunt care and i clearly refuse the idea. So yes, if u want a new rule: "every call should be accepted by ALL team members" then if u are a good leader u need to convince them or just find a new call where everyone agrees. Becuz in that game specifically is not as Rose or Fiji refused any other idea as Avada did. Avada just wants his TK calls or nothing, talking in the name of the rest. The ban u gave to Jason was pure sad.


Even with your rule Jason- would be banned because his lvl 2 send was not accepted by all members (in fact by 0)......