[ID] Mooze and europe

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[ID] Mooze and europe

Postby heyy » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:00 am

Your Warcraft III username: magenta
Violator's Warcraft III username: mooze
Game name or map name: island defense
Stats page link: i cant find it
Rule player violated: maphacking
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): hmm it happens all the time on replay
Any further thoughts: it was something island defense 44 or 43 today i cant find replays hope you can but mooze has alot of fog clicks and following windwalked people
going bases without pearl :SSS

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Dread-Sword » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:06 am

Game name or map name: [ENT] Island Defense #43
Stats page link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=3704901

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Virulence » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:22 pm

A few of us have always suspected him of maphacking, but no definite proof. I'll take a look at it after work today.
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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Tek280 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:35 pm

Suspicious moments i found :

2:35[spoiler=]going straight for eu-eb after they started building there. Didnt pearl. (Eu is most common base obv but still eu early bases are not that common )[/spoiler]
5:53 -6:35
[spoiler=]he "shift-walks" to euro to nuke pirates workers.
5:52 <Mooze> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: 8753.55, Y: -4201.40, flags: 0x0019)
5:56 <Mooze> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: 3956.64, Y: -4425.73, flags: 0x0018)
Pirate detos his workers shortly before he reaches euro. Seems like he noticed that because he DOESNT use pearl / stones to check if pirates workers are still there.[/spoiler]
7:00-7:30[spoiler=]prolly the most suspicious moment :
Mooze is sieging euro. Troll uses ww inside the base. Titan had no vision of troll at that moment.
When troll was just outside walls he moves back with his mininon and main and places sentry ward right next to him.
Troll gets killed at ~7:30.[/spoiler]
(16:05 / All) Mooze: with 4 pearls you can discover every popular base spot.
[spoiler=]hes lying here he had 1 pearl and used it max. 5 times in the whole game. He still found every base first try or without pearling[/spoiler]

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Dread-Sword » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:30 pm

Yeah really ! every step he made was suspicious.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Virulence » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:44 am

The troll chase and the moment of going for pirate's workers are enough to warrant a mh.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Mooze » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:24 am

That's BS and you know it.

"A few of us have always suspected him of maphacking, but no definite proof. I'll take a look at it after work today."

If this was your definite proof I wonder how clueless your previous suspicion was.

I saw pirate running towards me, and put sentry ward in case he tried to escape. Then found troll. That's all. Seriously implying it's MH is ridiculous.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Dread-Sword » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:42 am

If you are saying that wasn't a MH then try explaining these !

Tek280 wrote:Suspicious moments i found :

2:35[spoiler=]going straight for eu-eb after they started building there. Didnt pearl. (Eu is most common base obv but still eu early bases are not that common )[/spoiler]
5:53 -6:35
[spoiler=]he "shift-walks" to euro to nuke pirates workers.
5:52 <Mooze> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: 8753.55, Y: -4201.40, flags: 0x0019)
5:56 <Mooze> 0x12: Target order: smart (X: 3956.64, Y: -4425.73, flags: 0x0018)
Pirate detos his workers shortly before he reaches euro. Seems like he noticed that because he DOESNT use pearl / stones to check if pirates workers are still there.[/spoiler]
7:00-7:30[spoiler=]prolly the most suspicious moment :
Mooze is sieging euro. Troll uses ww inside the base. Titan had no vision of troll at that moment.
When troll was just outside walls he moves back with his mininon and main and places sentry ward right next to him.
Troll gets killed at ~7:30.[/spoiler]
(16:05 / All) Mooze: with 4 pearls you can discover every popular base spot.
[spoiler=]hes lying here he had 1 pearl and used it max. 5 times in the whole game. He still found every base first try or without pearling[/spoiler]

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Mooze » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:54 am

Well, I've already explained #3.

What I meant by #4 is that, if you pearl 4 times you will have found all the popular base spots. I wasn't implying I had 4 pearls nor that I pearled for times. However, as someone who is out to get other players banned I can see how you'd misinterpret it.

As to #2 I decided against, in the replay you can see me standing still a bit, behind the tree wall, the workers already detonated. And on a map which you can travel in 30~ seconds, the term "shortly before" is extremely relative.

I don't even feel the need to explain #1. Euro is by far the most common base spot. I ran over to check it out, not to my surprise I found a base there. If I did MH I'd go before their walls were up. As you can see I didn't even breach euro.

Now, I don't generally bother explaining myself, but this ban is absolutely silly, based on very vague assumptions, and newly defeated, raging players.

Edit: I don't intend to be disrespectful, but to be honest I'm outraged by this whole case.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Dread-Sword » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:33 pm

well it's not that i want you to get banned here , first i was playing in this game ! Second it's not my decision whether you get banned or not it's the Moderators job.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Danicon » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:37 pm

So should i just make a ban appeal or will this get the opinion of a second admin?

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby nabo. » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:35 pm

@danicon

You are also mooze?

This forum sub section is called "awaiting for confirmation". A second mod will review this in time.

You are free to appeal any time if you are sure you are innocent.

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby Mooze » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm

dunno who danicon is. thanks for the useful information though

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Re: [ID] Mooze and europe

Postby nabo. » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:37 am

Case was reviewed and appeal was denied by two other mods: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=33070&start=10

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