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[DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby Jiminy_Cricket » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:04 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5578201
Game Name: [ENT] DotA LoD -sdems6bod2 #7
Your Warcraft III Username: jiminy_cricket
Violator's Warcraft III Username: pharmacy; romario
Violated Rule(s): both mh
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):

1507 (replay time) as an invis huskar goes toward blue blue backs. 1508 huskar turns back, blue turns back. 1536 blue is getting ready for huskars attack by priming fiery soul.

1756 blue runs from siegers tp.

2126 blue waits for huskar to leave then runs when coast is clear.

2318 sieger lays ward right on gyro then sieger dodges an arrow that was heading from fog. 2329 blue tps to ward to deward and pink already knows hes coming so goes for gank.

2350 seiger goes after ds, the next closest hero. Then protects brown. 2410 does a little fog dance with yellow then angles a splash attack and kills yellow.

2517 sieger goes directly at blue with enchant totem up.

2527 he knows akasha is approaching, enchant totem up

2635 sieger again preloads his enchant totem for hero (teal)in fog.

2644 blinks after ds in fog.

2652 seiger follows gyros exact path in fog.

3310 seiger blink exactly on blues location. He had sight of blue at 3307 but exactly his pathing again.

4040 sieger some how knows there are no more heroes to kill except for on the fountain so he blinks right on over.




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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby destiny » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:08 am

well blue died 16 times, if he'd had mh im quite sure he would have avoided most of them

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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby Jiminy_Cricket » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:52 am

@destiny when you take the time to watch the replay youll see you cant avoid death when youre opponent has one hit and ball lightning. Blue did avoid death multiple times by knowing an enemy was coming but blues escapes were not strong enough to evade ball lightning/splash/one hit/mh.
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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby astronomy9 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:12 am

i had lots of vision that game due to hawk and darkness, plus i used all spells on cd to maintain vision. however in their case they had 3 invis plus one ball lightning one hitter which led to me playing extremely passive that game, e.g. tp-ing to a lane farm a few creeps then b. nevertheless died many times and @destiny yes if i had mh i would have died way less

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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby Jiminy_Cricket » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:18 pm

I watched the replay multiple times. There was no vision at the posted incidents.
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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby Hatedmaru » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:43 am

Locked until review

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Re: [DOTA] [LOD] pharmacy@uswest.battle.net; romario@europe.battle.net

Postby Hatedmaru » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:35 am

After reviewing:

1507 (replay time) as an invis huskar goes toward blue blue backs.

Dark seer had used arrow moments ago and it hit someone along the way, therefore it was obvious someone was there, and thats why blue backed off (yellow even pinged there) - nothing suspicious

1508 huskar turns back, blue turns back.

Well he dind't see anyone else attack, and there were no visible enemies after a while (except sieger), and considering he had allies bot lane, he decided to run back: Yes it's a lucky coincidence his backing time turns on the same point as huskar turned back, but i hardly believe it was caused by that;

1536 blue is getting ready for huskars attack by priming fiery soul.

Actually here i think he's getting ready to attack on sieger and not really on huskar - After huskar died, he was ganked by pugna and not a slightest intention of dodging/evading him, he purely got ganked here.

1756 blue runs from siegers tp.

Suspicious he decides to back when sieger tp's, however considering the amount of enemies missing at this point, and looking how game was going, it's safe to also assume he was trying to play safe;

2126 blue waits for huskar to leave then runs when coast is clear.

Suspicious - weird how he stood there, waiting for nothing near the ward, spamming his call of the wild spells - Still it also makes no sense why he would stop near the ward + he never went back to base, he tp'ed later to his team, to gank on LC.

2318 sieger lays ward right on gyro then sieger dodges an arrow that was heading from fog.

So, let's see: 16 minutes mark: Sniper had killed creeps there right before, and he lost sight over that area, which means creeps should be there, and once sieger enters forest, creeps are seen with low hp -> Purple is seen incoming to forest, therefore it was safe to assume it wasn't purple who was attacking creeps since he was full hp/almost full mana as well. Actually if you notice the replay on 1/2 replay speed, he only started moving to somehow dodge it after arrow became visible.

2329 blue tps to ward to deward and pink already knows hes coming so goes for gank.

Sieger was circling around forest, went warding on the middle section of it, and went back to his ward, and found blue - considering purple was seen in forest, and arrow was used, it's safe to assume he went there to wait for someone (gank), yet blue was there so he killed him

2350 seiger goes after ds, the next closest hero. Then protects brown.

Purple was seen by wards so he went after purple; then after purple was killed he backed out towards pugna .. Nothing suspicious here

2410 does a little fog dance with yellow then angles a splash attack and kills yellow.

Oracle was in sight for a second on his ward near the 1st camp spot

2517 sieger goes directly at blue with enchant totem up.

they had just dewarded his area, even his ally pinged that location.

2527 he knows akasha is approaching, enchant totem up

Akasha attempted to attack him after wr died, so its logical he'd go to the ramp to counter gank, considering he was a 1 hit guy.

2635 sieger again preloads his enchant totem for hero (teal)in fog.

teal was seen by ward, and he had his enchant totem up during the fights going on in woods

2644 blinks after ds in fog.

You can guess where purple went, since purple used blink, and heroes face the direction they blink.

2652 seiger follows gyros exact path in fog.

Well if you had died, and if he kept following you, i could assume this as suspicious, however: the path he took at start was normal until the ramp, considering gyro was seen going there, then gyro turned bot which is the normal safe path to take, he had a ward on middle forest, and he stopped at this point.

3310 seiger blink exactly on blues location. He had sight of blue at 3307 but exactly his pathing again.

Blue was seen heading back near the bottom part of the ramp, so when sieger jumped in, his pathing isn't suspicious there.

4040 sieger some how knows there are no more heroes to kill except for on the fountain so he blinks right on over.

2 were dead, purple and oracle were seen going back into the fountain.. whats suspicious here?

No legit fogclicks or enough suspicious movements to provide a ban

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