Risk Preteam redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe

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Risk Preteam redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe

Postby Setharias » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:10 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6779937
Game Name: [ENT] Risk Devolution #48
Your Warcraft III Username: Setharias
Violator's Warcraft III Username: redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe
Violated Rule(s): Preteaming
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):

setharias (Grey)
redblood3 (blue)
tropic33 (green)
California @europe (Dark Green)
lamb4slaughter @europe (Brown)

6:56 - 27:07 Blue attacks dark green,
27:08 even though dg is clearly losing and blue is bigger income, green joins the fight and teams against dark green (him and blue have not warred eachother all game to this point and to the very end when the game ends, except for a fake skirmish they do with spawns in ukraine to try and look less guilty, but even brown says it was a fake looking war)

35:30 I make the declaration those two are the preteamers that shared same IP in game lobby and to try and argue it they perform a cheap fake spawn war in ukraine to try and look innocent, but even their friend brown called it out.
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(35:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: jesus
(35:45 / All) lamb4slaughter: loook at the teamers pretend war

38:30 I send a few knights out to attack green since he is teaming dg with blue, and to try and bait out preteaming behavior, in which brown threatens me not to attack him or he will kill me
(38:31 / All) lamb4slaughter: grey
(38:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: dont hit him
(38:46 / All) lamb4slaughter: if you take russia
(38:52 / All) lamb4slaughter: i will have to take the rest of my land
It was this point i started to suspect there was more than blue/green teaming, which in the have more thoughts section i show time stamp chat logs where they admit to having 4, which i later explain at the end section.

42:59 I hit green again in russia and brown again retorts at me
(42:53 / All) lamb4slaughter: grey
(42:58 / All) lamb4slaughter: just let him live in belarus
Also yes chat log and in game log are slightly off.

44:00 dark green moves his soldiers into russia, and here is the 2 time stamps i will show that proves how hard green and blue are teaming.
48:00 green moves his russia troops in the north and blue moves troops from georgia into russia south in order to pin dark green and wipe him out, blue ignoring that brown was hitting him and green ignoring i was hitting him.

49:30 Seeing they are still teaming I go in for belarus to take out green while hes teaming dg in russia.

52:00 I gain the upperhand and at this point you can see blues troops running over to me in belarus from behind completely ignoring dark greens still remaining presence in russia odd huh?

52:50 blue saves green and dark green asks
(52:27 / All) California: so did we ever ID the preteamers?
(52:32 / All) Tropic33: ya it was u
(52:33 / All) Setharias: ya blues trying to save green
(52:41 / All) RedBlood3: yea and dg is california
(52:43 / All) RedBlood3: in a skype call with me
(52:46 / All) RedBlood3: and browns lamb4slaughter
(52:49 / All) RedBlood3: also in a skype call with me
Kind of unintentionally admitting guilt much?

54:30 Blue retreats after clearing me out of the baltics and belarus letting green retake his lands, thats just so damn brainlessly obvious.
54:54 I want to test their preteam skype call theory and I hit brown in sweden and norway and see what happens.
1:04:02 They are all 4 talking crap on me about bans whether ENT cares about risk devo yatta yatta the same stuff i heard from the first 2 bans you guys processed 7 days for me and the other 3 reports I have waiting. The same old ENT wont ban me I didnt preteam no evidence yatta yatta.

At this point I am convinced they are all 4 in a skype call and their only concern is killing everyone else off who is not in their group of 4 which is not how risk devo FFA is meant to be played
(73:11 / All) lamb4slaughter: anyone wanan get some saticfaction
(73:17 / All) lamb4slaughter: by murdering grey
(73:22 / All) lamb4slaughter: theres a whole left side
(73:28 / All) RedBlood3: give me the left side
(73:29 / All) RedBlood3: brown
(73:44 / All) lamb4slaughter: dont want to steal away the glorious murdering
(73:49 / All) lamb4slaughter: form someone else

1:15:30 Blue takes the left brown takes the right and they finish me off, but what cringes me more is what they all do after? DG BLUE BROWN GREEN draw the game, even though it was perfectly playable, risk FFA is not meant to just kill off everyone who isnt your buddy then quit, it is meant for everyone in the game to play solo and with the goal is reaching 1st place victory in mind. It seems now preteamers can easily draw a game and end it unfairly it only takes 4 votes, so like this case if 4 preteamers are in a game even at the very start they could just troll everyone by drawing it and ending it, I would seriously consider fixing this, but I am sure drawing for purposes like this in its self is bannable right? starts at
(77:29 / All) California: !draw
(77:33 / All) Tropic33: !draw
(77:34 / All) lamb4slaughter: !draw
(77:39 / All) California: !undraw
Then all 4 of them just quit giving red the win, when the game was still perfectly play able, if your not in a game to play it as intended those 4 have no business playing risk devo for a little while that is bullshit to anyone like me who plays for 1st place every single time!

Any further thoughts:

*In the lobby it did say this - [System]: Player [Tropic33] has the same IP address as: RedBlood3 - first flag
In game chat they did admit to being friends and being all in a skype call, now this its self is not preteaming, i get it friends do like playing together, that is apart of having a online video game, but always playing this way making it so that they always win as a team never lose either of their members that is preteaming, especially not even playing out the game against eachother and just flat out quitting.

(52:41 / All) RedBlood3: yea and dg is california
(52:43 / All) RedBlood3: in a skype call with me
(52:46 / All) RedBlood3: and browns lamb4slaughter
(52:49 / All) RedBlood3: also in a skype call with me
(53:04 / All) Tropic33: gray we're all four in a skype call
(53:16 / All) Tropic33: also sad
(56:28 / All) Tropic33: we're in a skype call
(56:41 / All) Tropic33: we're in a skype call with blue, brown, dg and me :^ )
(62:01 / All) lamb4slaughter: im in a skype call with them
(72:20 / All) Tropic33: california is in a call with us bro lol
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Re: Risk Preteam redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe

Postby Setharias » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:06 pm

@Hazardous Sorry for the large information there is just a lot of time stamps, but I tried to cut down the opinions and stick to what is needed to acknowledge the pre-team.
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Re: Risk Preteam redblood3@europe tropic33@useast lamb4slaughter@europe California@europe

Postby KinG23 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:01 pm

After reviewing, the evidences presented here do not convince me without doubt that these four pre-teamed. For me to ban four people for pre-team, the instances must be very clear and obvious. With that being said, no bans will be issued. If there are other games where you feel these four have pre-teamed, feel free to post.

On a side note, you can stop pre-teaming yourself, thanks.
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