thunder(x)prime uswest.battle.net and i.own.noobs useast.battle.net Again

[Setharias]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6891930
Game Name: [ENT] Risk Devolution #18
Your Warcraft III Username: Setharias
Violator's Warcraft III Username: thunder(x)prime uswest.battle.net and i.own.noobs useast.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): Preteaming (2nd or 3rd offence)
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
COLORS
I.own.noobs (Dark Green)
thunder(x)prime(Yellow )

In the violations i will also post related chat log please not DG and YELLOW never use in game chat to communicate with each other, preteamers are always chat quiet able to communicate using third party voice software.
3:00 LB hits DG Spain and kills him
6:00 Yellow does not mind sharing borders and giving dark green Finland notice how Yellow expands to the left as dark green expands to the right, they do not once communicate peace in chat, or guard their borders with eachother. No player has a peace that close and expand opposite of eachother without having any defense against eachother without any chat communication between the two. That is HIGH flag of preteam behavior.
12:00 Yellow and DG still share borders with yellow leaving all bases against him unguarded without still any chat between them in game, how strange?
18:00 Orange asks yellow for peace, yellow ignores and hits him, still to this point why is yellow going out of his way to expand outward and war everyone else while he let DG take and still keep finland and border him and still has not put any defense on their bordered bases and still have not used in game chat to communicate together? WTF?
21:45 dg runs a knight through Sweden and Norway takes yellows port then fills up a transport all without communicating between them two or without yellow questioning why DG took one of his bases and he just casually without chatting takes it back without any issue?
22:15 Now DG sails that same transport and without any chat between them or any confrontation just casually takes yellow's svalbard yet again yellow says and does nothing about it.
22:30 Purple asks DG for peace and DG accepts after that Purple attacks Yellow in Sweden chat proof of this peace between purple and dg.
(21:52 / All) TheDefender16: nice
(22:14 / All) TheDefender16: dg
(22:19 / All) i.OwN.nOoBs.: ?<
(22:25 / All) TheDefender16: you're cool with me man
(22:29 / All) i.OwN.nOoBs.: yes
(22:47 / All) TheDefender16: oh, i meant that as in I'm telling you dont worry about me
25:49 Purple builds knights and attacks purple without any communication from DG or Yellow. Note Purple and Dg had a confirmed peace, but then after Purple Fights yellow, then DG breaks the peace and attacks purple? Cmon now that is just ridiculous still notice Yellows border bases with DG in norway and sweden are still undefended not even 1 extra rifleman on the bases?? At this point people start to comment on their behavior.
(25:52 / All) TheDefender16: okay dg
(25:58 / All) TheDefender16: so you hit me after i said im good with you
(25:59 / All) TheDefender16: bad idea
Now purple calls for a truce on yellow so he can fight DG lets see what happens ehh?
(26:09 / All) TheDefender16: lol
(26:28 / All) TheDefender16: truce yellow
26:52 Purple retreats his attack on yellow to hit back DG lets see if yellow respects the truce or keeps teaming purple to defend his buddy DG.
(27:24 / All) TheDefender16: take sweden yellow
(28:00 / All) TheDefender16: yellow teally now
(28:01 / All) TheDefender16: wow
(28:07 / All) TheDefender16: holding a grudge huh
(28:09 / All) TheDefender16: after i was friendly and truced you
(28:24 / All) TheDefender16: and dg is on me for no reason
(28:26 / All) TheDefender16: preteam much?
28:00 Yellow hits purple as expected in the baltics to defend his ally DG.

Dark Green finally speaks for the 2nd time and asks purple for peace after his friend yellow hits purple hard. Weird?
(28:37 / All) i.OwN.nOoBs.: peace purpo ?
(28:50 / All) i.OwN.nOoBs.:

30:00 Purple agrees to DG's peace and starts hitting yellow instead again, lets see if Darkgreen breaks the truce and teams purple to help yellow again.
33:45 Without communicating DG breaks the peace with Purple for the 2nd time and attacks him once again in russia once yellow starts to lose the war, i mean these guys dont even try to hide it, still note yellow has not once ever communicated in game, or made defense against his borders with DG, instead he fights everyone else except for DG.
36:00 DG begins his full out attack war with purple while yellow fights blue.

Now At the point that thunder/Yellow quits they still have income and troops to play out the game but he just quits. His buddy leaves a minute after even with alot of troops still live.

Finally again leaving same time frame as 100% always
thunder(x)prime uswest.battle.net 45.42 has left the game voluntarily
i.own.noobs. useast.battle.net 46.85 has left the game voluntarily

Any further thoughts:
Every game they are together they quit at the same time frame win or lose and every game they play multiple players refer to them as preteaming in the chat log, 100% of my ban requests for preteaming have gotten approved by the ENT admin staff, that shows how carefully i select and the effort I make into each ban request. I know they are long but that is because I want to remove any unsure thoughts from the admins responsible for the ban to assure the most accuracy.
These guys along with their other alt or friends names fire(x)prime / frozen(x)prime / kikou / zizidure and others have been ban request by me and banned by hazardous / hyo / king23 multiple times for the same offences playing together this group of 2-4 has repeatedly pre-team even being banned multiple times for it. Either due to they are ban dodging (possible) or just don't care because the 5-7 day ban does not influence them enough to correct their behavior. Therefore I politely request that this ban be extended to 2 weeks with IP ban to prevent ban dodging if it has occurred which is highly possible.

[Setharias]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 890721.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Risk Devolution #8
Your Warcraft III Username: Setharias
Violator's Warcraft III Username: thunder(x)prime uswest.battle.net and i.own.noobs useast.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): Preteam MULTIPLE PAST OFFENCES
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
thunder(x)prime (Green)
i.own.noobs. (Orange)
6:15 everyone is set up and ready for war, notice how again orange and green share close borders but do not defend their lines against eachother same as always and no communication.
6:20 Green and Light blue prepare to war for France.
8:26 orange takes Italy green takes France, still they share their borders so calmly and undefended and still without any communication. PS they have never ever ever ever warred against each other in any of the games they play together and always leave at the same time frame win or lose.
10:14 Orange goes out even further to war purple and other people while green wars against LB. But judging by their positions it would make more sense to war each other? But every game they go out of their way to fight others instead of themselves.
17:11 Green pulls all of his soldiers away from oranges borders and preps to attack orange while orange wars everyone else, note at this point orange is clearly the strongest player and is in the winning position and income, so why does green gang up on the smaller players instead of shutting down the winner? Other then the fact they are preteaming of course....
21:16 only orange green and blue are left, orange is the winning player in income yet green continues to kill blue and let orange win uncontested.
Any further thoughts:
Notice how they communicate rarely with everyone else, but they never in game communicate with eachother? They give eachother land, share borders without defense, and never war eachother without ever communicating? That is impossible.
23:30 Orange and greens troops meet in bosnia/croatia but they both pull their troops back to avoid fighting with still no communication WTF???
24:30 Green retreats all of his soldiers in lower europe and lets orange sweep through and take the win freely without any contest that is all I have to say about that....

Any further thoughts:

PLEASE BAN LONGER! 5-7 days is not enough! These guys and their friends and alts have been banned off my requests 2-3 times now, they need harsher punishment for repeated offences as I am sure you guys have rules against repeating offenders.

thunder(x)prime uswest.battle.net 25.4 has left the game voluntarily
i.own.noobs. useast.battle.net 25.22 has left the game voluntarily

(16:33 / All) Krashnovr: teamers won
(17:08 / All) lava: are green and orange teamers?
(17:20 / All) Gomes31: yes they are
(17:26 / All) Gomes31: they never atack each other
(17:32 / All) lava: that sucks
(17:39 / All) Gomes31: they are pre team

Multiple people refer to them as preteamers as the same as every game they play everyone acknowledges them as such,
I posted another ban request it seems after their last ban you issued them for the same offence ran out for the 2nd or 3rd time they seem to be at it again. These guys continuously preteam them and their alts and buddies have been banned multiple times from my ban requests by hyo/king23/hazardous and they still continue this behavior, whether 5-7 days is not severe enough to reform them or they are bandodging on their many alts and or ip changing it seems more needs to be done. I humbly request that this be extended to 2 weeks and a heavy IP ban be imposed, hopefully they will soon learn the error of their ways and reform to the rest of the risk devolution society.

[RadiantCrystal]

Merged, same people reported

[KinG23]

Clear pre-teaming in both games at the above timestamps.

thunder(x)prime@uswest and i.own.noobs.@useast banned 3 weeks for pre-teaming (multiple offenses).