[DOTA] l_ucifer@uswest

[staalseminstaal]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 350904.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA arem us/ca #15
Your Warcraft III Username: Earl
Violator's Warcraft III Username: l_ucifer
Violated Rule(s): game ruin, grief, refusal to help team, throw
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): Around 16 mins he just fully quits, see below for proper time stamps
Any further thoughts: ignores gank at ~24 mins game time when its coming to him, he spends 20min through 30min in opposing jungle farming neutrals

first votekick: (26:58 / Allied) Limbsky: !votekick l_uc
(27:02 / All) Limbsky: greifing refusing to help team
(27:09 / All) tbnotb: why greiving?
(27:13 / All) Limbsky: sitting in woods
(27:14 / All) Limbsky: crying

After feeding and then complaining about jugg (as he does allgame):
(28:30 / Allied) KimboSlicefrog: he less braindead than u
(28:33 / Allied) L_ucifer: nah
(28:41 / Allied) L_ucifer: i need linken
(28:45 / Allied) L_ucifer: since yall dont pro

We are supposed to "protect" a QoP, with 1100 blink at lvl 1, from what, neutrals?

His reason for feeding:
(29:14 / Allied) L_ucifer: u know
(29:16 / Allied) L_ucifer: they have a hero
(29:18 / Allied) L_ucifer: called silencer
(29:31 / Allied) L_ucifer: u wanna know what his ult does?
So he feeds early ONLY because of an ultimate that has 2minute long CD. Right.
And this is where he really fucks off:
(29:44 / Allied) Earl: you are doing so bad
(29:47 / Allied) Earl: just 1 player with 1 skill
(29:53 / Allied) Earl: yes
(29:54 / Allied) Earl: 2-5
(29:54 / Allied) Earl: bad
(29:48 / Allied) L_ucifer: doing bad?
(30:02 / Allied) L_ucifer: could be worse
(30:06 / Allied) L_ucifer: want proof?

at 28 mins again is another example of him farming neutrals, not defending. We are getting pushed in and he's sitting other side of map in neutrals. Refuses to defend. Then after we're all dead runs towards their bot and says "What? Im pushing". Just troll behaviour. He ultimates 3 creeps at the tower then runs away.

He makes an "Attempt" at defending at 32 mins, which involves him going in after team is dead just to feed himself intentionally.

He should understand his malicious behaviour, courtesy of this quote after I tell him I will be submitting:
(35:29 / Allied) L_ucifer: oh
(35:30 / Allied) L_ucifer: its all good dude
(35:32 / Allied) L_ucifer: i have played
(35:36 / Allied) L_ucifer: hundreds of games
(35:43 / Allied) L_ucifer: nothing to "prevent ban"

Then spends the rest of the game shitting on teammates. This guy has ban history and has played, as he said, 100's of games and knows the rules and how his behaviour effected the result of this game. This was just an off the charts throw. Thanks for reading.

[balancesheet]

Off the charts throw? Hopefully the mods appreciate the "other side" of the story

Game starts: I express multiple times i suck with QOP. nobody wants to swap. OK. I offer to repick. Team suggests I keep QOP. OK i keep QOP.

Minutes 0-10/15: i try ganking multiple times. team does not help AT all. I wind up dying like, 5x. one time, SK walks right by as bristle is chasing me and spamming slow. He doesnt stun and I die. Team then gives me grief for "feeding". OK fine.

So then I try farming empty lane/jungle for linkens, since silencer and BB are wrecking me. Then the team gives me shit for not helping. But of course when I try to help, they are not protecting me and letting me die. So what gives? Oh I know: they were outplayed, and needed a scapegoat.

I encourage the mods to read full context of the above snippets. Taken out of context. For example, the last one, I am saying there is nothing I need to do to "prevent a ban" because I am not doing naything against the rules. Saying "it could be worse, want proof" is means absolutely nothing.

Also, I would encourage the mods to check my play AFTER i farm linkens. I am consistently helping the team at this point.

Finally, I would encourage the mods to discipline the original poster for essentially trying to get me banned /kicked for no reason. THanks!

[staalseminstaal]

1. didnt try to get you kicked, glad you actually read the transcript and watched the replay like me.
2. hard to use stun when hes out of mana and/or not trying to die
3. trying to gank but getting no help would imply to me that you are merely diving into them and looking for a scapegoat for poor decision making when it goes bad. your hero is fully equipped with the ability not to feed via a blink. their team has 1 stun and one global silence. if you are dieing it is because of poor play, and not anyone elses fault.
4. trying to establish the above point as a reason to completely ignore the entirety of what is going on the next 20 minutes of the game, including getting pushed against, is a crock of a shit, and is in fact a case of you being, and i quote "outplayed, and needed a scapegoat."
5. linkens is not going to save you versus a team with spam spells, such as bristle, on top of nortrom, huskar, and liquid fire. bristle had travels 22 minutes before you did. you would never out run him. and thats just 1 hero.
6. farming said item 35 minutes into a game where they already have a rax is not at all a useful tactic. the rest of your team is 4 carries and we are left to defend alone as you, the ganker/early/midgame hero is farming neutrals? explain the logic. you have played "hundreds of games", you should be able to explain this easily with all of that experience.
7. inncestantly calling teammates bad while you yourself are doing the worst on the team is an indicator of immaturity, as is:
8. im allowed to try to submit you if i see fit. its extremely immature to suggest someones right - that every player has - should be used as a reason to punish that person. you should take this criticism as a way to improve yourself, rather than self imploding and causing a problem for your 4 teammates.

In other words, grow up. Suprised you didnt do what you normally do and ask people to suck your dick in all talk at game start, as you do in most every other game. Jesus.

[balancesheet]

I'll be the mature one and let the mods do their job, rather get into an argument in the "ban requests" forum. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to continue telling me how to play dota.

[staalseminstaal]

Seeing a lot of ban requests being processed that are posted after this, so doing this post to bump. @beerlord @arii

[EdgeOfChaos]

Denied. He participated in many team fights, defended, and pushed after your timestamps when you say he quit. He did farm the jungle, but farming itself isn't against the rules, only when you refuse to help the team at all (which he did not do). You both need to tone down the flaming, though.