[LTD Hell] Liomuald, four5six

[Mysteriousdewd]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9385200
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 385200.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] HELLHALT TD #94
Your Warcraft III Username: Mysteriousdewd
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Liomuald
Violated Rule(s): Solo sending wyvern round 2 i believe for Liomuald, refusal to co-operate, lieing about breaking rules, lieing about the rules.

four5six perposely fed Liomuald as a troll and refused to kick him and four5six was trolling despite Liomuald was clearly breaking the rules.

Both of them ruined the game and I should have this game stricken from my record for the fact that it was not balanced and there were 2 people purposefully trolling it.

Exact Rules from ent wiki:
Votekick Rules:
You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.
If a votekick is initiated to kick a visible game ruiner, all players are obligated to !yes.

Regular Rules:
Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.
Do not deceive players about rules.

LTD Hell Rules:
Refusing to build in attempt to teamkill.
Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.

Time of Violation (in-game or replay): Start of level 2 onwards
Any further thoughts:
Liomuald with how much ELO he has should be banned for at least 2 weeks minimum for purposefully trolling and refusing to co-operate with his team. This is not acceptable nor does it shine a good light on the community and he must be taught a proper lesson to set an example for others. The fact that he would purposefully troll and lie about breaking the rules and attempt to pass the buck off to another player shows his lack of care for the community and not only that, but he badmouths ent and the fact that it has rules.

As some of you know I along with @matdas are the kings of landmines, he clearly built them in the improper usage and as a result knew that he would leak on lvl 10. He was 6/2 and said at lvl 3 he was not going to go past that in lumber because I was talking to him in game. This was his build just before lvl 10 and you can clearly see he was trolling:
http://i.imgur.com/5HmQEFL.png


four5six should be given a short but suitable ban for refusing to follow the ent rule of votekicking a player for breaking a rule, it is not acceptable to force a win against another team because one player is ruining a game for others.

[Mysteriousdewd]

I would like this case re-evaluated as Jabba was too lazy to read the chat logs.

[DeliriousNevets]

I read the chat log and if anything, teal did falsely accuse blue of saying "he said he's trolling" when he never did. You also did ghost by telling the other team all lumber amounts (both bannable offenses) and it was a one time solo send very early in game. You also didn't communicate at all with him except for the very beginning regarding mines and ghouls and blue did say he was going to stay at 6/2, Everyone has their own style of play. From the screenshot you posted, he did build. Maybe he was trying something new and it just didn't work out? Besides, calling a mod "lazy" for not reading the chat logs isn't going to help you out in your case.

[Mysteriousdewd]

I am currently playing a game with Liomuald this second and he is trolling again.

[Mysteriousdewd]

I would like this case re-evaluated as Jabba was too lazy to read the chat logs.

Also ghosting would not apply to this as the ent rule states you must provide a valid reason for votekicking someone.

[Mysteriousdewd]

I read the chat log and if anything, teal did falsely accuse blue of saying "he said he's trolling" when he never did. You also did ghost by telling the other team all lumber amounts (both bannable offenses) and it was a one time solo send very early in game. You also didn't communicate at all with him except for the very beginning regarding mines and ghouls and blue did say he was going to stay at 6/2, Everyone has their own style of play. From the screenshot you posted, he did build. Maybe he was trying something new and it just didn't work out? Besides, calling a mod "lazy" for not reading the chat logs isn't going to help you out in your case.

Blue also said he was going to stay 6/2 because I was talking to him, or did you choose to pick from the chat log on purpose? I communicated with him several times throughout the match despite his defiance.

With how many games he has which you can see from the screenshot below, this person knows how to play.
http://imgur.com/wfDiX11

[Mysteriousdewd]

Moderators you may choose to combine this thread with my other report here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111349

To further show his uncompliance. He is a player with 500 games under his belt, this behavior should not be tolerated.

[Jabba41]

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=110928 Old BRQ.

Topic is re-opened now. I Want 1 post from you. Just one. In which you provide timestamps. If you fail to provide timestamps with in 24 this requests will get denied again.

Thanks.

@Mysteriousdewd

[Mysteriousdewd]

Heres the solo sending:

(01:52 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: are you purposely trolling blue?
(02:48 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !lms katsch222
(05:06 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: blue don't solo send
(05:12 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: with your elo you know the rules of ent

Right here he clearly says he plans on staying 6/2 because i asked him to solo send to which how can you not take what he is saying as pure and undeniable proof is beyond my understanding of you.

(05:06 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: blue don't solo send
(05:12 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: with your elo you know the rules of ent
(05:36 / Allied) Liomuald: now i stay 6/2 until 10
(05:42 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: why?
(05:51 / Allied) Liomuald: why not
(05:57 / Allied) Liomuald: throw some rules at me
(05:58 / Allied) Liomuald: or play
(06:00 / Allied) katsch2222: he is trolling... just let him be.. he has no life
(06:00 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: you have 200 gold
(06:01 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: build
(06:05 / Allied) Liomuald: no am not
(06:06 / Allied) Liomuald: fuck of
(06:12 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: you are clearly trolling

At this point TEAL starts a votekick as he also sees that Liomuald is breaking the rules to which liomuald lies to cover up his trolling.

(06:05 / Allied) Liomuald: no am not
(06:06 / Allied) Liomuald: fuck of
(06:12 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: you are clearly trolling
(06:17 / Allied) Liomuald: i was talking to answer you and didnt build
(06:19 / Allied) Liomuald: stop
(06:23 / Allied) katsch2222: !votekick Liomuald
(06:23 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has been started by player [katsch2222]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(06:23 / All) katsch2222: Type !yes to vote.
(06:23 / All) katsch2222: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(06:26 / All) katsch2222: trolling
(06:27 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !yes
(06:27 / All) katsch2222: Player [Mysteriousdewd] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
(06:30 / All) Mysteriousdewd: hard trolling
(06:30 / All) Liomuald: they are bullying me
(06:33 / All) Liomuald: since start
(06:36 / All) Liomuald: like rule-bitch
(06:39 / All) Liomuald: while im just playing
(06:41 / All) Liomuald: dont listen
(06:42 / All) katsch2222: no he isnt building anything and solo sending
(06:47 / All) Mysteriousdewd: he has 600 value
(06:52 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and is refusing to build more
(06:55 / All) Liomuald: i answer their shit and lose focus
(06:59 / All) Liomuald: their fault
(07:02 / All) Lord_Humpwad: we all have our bad games
(07:06 / All) Liomuald: thanks4
(07:13 / All) katsch2222: it has nothing to do with a bad game lmfao.. he told us he is trolling
(07:17 / All) Mysteriousdewd: he isn't having a bad game
(07:19 / All) Liomuald: no i didnt
(07:19 / Allied) Liomuald: wow
(07:21 / All) Liomuald: he is lyinfg
(07:23 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has expired.
(07:25 / All) four5six: Blue wyvern fked me up lol
(07:26 / All) Mysteriousdewd: he literally said he refuses to build more wisps
(07:29 / All) Liomuald: thanks
(07:30 / All) Mysteriousdewd: he is solo sending
(07:31 / All) Liomuald: wow
(07:34 / All) Mysteriousdewd: which is against the rules
(07:35 / All) Liomuald: they lie
(07:38 / All) Liomuald: typical lies
(07:40 / All) Mysteriousdewd: you saw the wyvern
(07:40 / All) Liomuald: dont listen
(07:41 / All) four5six: he winning the game and they gonna kik him
(07:43 / All) four5six: lel
(07:44 / All) Mysteriousdewd: so how am i lieing?
(08:09 / All) Liomuald: they are ent bitches sucking the rules up, lying all they can to get a good guy out

AT THIS POINT Teal starts another votekick as blue continues to troll. To which someone on the other team brings up the fact that they see Liomuald is trolling but ORANGE four5six who should deserve a ban for not complying with the votekick and feeding the troll delays it

(12:13 / Allied) katsch2222: !votekick liomuald
(12:13 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has been started by player [katsch2222]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(12:13 / All) katsch2222: Type !yes to vote.
(12:13 / All) katsch2222: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(12:17 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !yes
(12:17 / All) katsch2222: Player [Mysteriousdewd] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
(12:19 / All) Liomuald: no
(12:27 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: should we kick blue
(12:30 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: i think hes troling
(12:30 / All) Mysteriousdewd: its fine i got the ban request ready
(12:42 / All) four5six: For leaking?
(12:47 / All) Mysteriousdewd: solo sending
(12:53 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and refusing to co-operate with team
(12:53 / All) katsch2222: shut up. you know dam well he isnt leaking on accident
(12:55 / Allied) four5six: did he?
(12:55 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and lieing
(12:57 / All) katsch2222: he is clearly trolling
(13:01 / All) four5six: What round?
(13:04 / All) Liomuald: dont listen to them.
(13:06 / All) Liomuald: 2
(13:11 / All) Liomuald: cause i didnt send 1
(13:13 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has expired.
(13:22 / All) four5six: its okay too solo send 1 or 2
(13:28 / All) Mysteriousdewd: nope
(13:32 / All) Mysteriousdewd: rules are quite clear
(13:35 / All) Mysteriousdewd: on ent website
(13:40 / All) katsch2222: he literally just builds units then sells them the next round
(13:46 / All) Liomuald: not at all
(13:46 / All) Liomuald: wow
(13:51 / All) katsch2222: he rushed wisps then he wont build anymore
(13:53 / All) Liomuald: teal lies i say it
(13:53 / All) Lord_Humpwad: !yes

At this point we start another votekick to which yellow tells orange to comply with the votekick as blue is clearly trolling but orange sits and thinks on it and refuses to do it despite seeing his allies statements
(14:01 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !votekick Liomuald
(14:01 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has been started by player [Mysteriousdewd]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(14:01 / All) katsch2222: Type !yes to vote.
(14:01 / All) katsch2222: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(14:02 / All) Liomuald: i am 6/2
(14:05 / All) four5six: everyone sends 1 or 2 not banning
(14:06 / Allied) katsch2222: !yes
(14:06 / All) katsch2222: Player [katsch2222] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
(14:06 / All) Lord_Humpwad: !yes
(14:06 / All) katsch2222: Player [Lord_Humpwad] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
(14:06 / All) Liomuald: is that bad?
(14:11 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and we are 9/3 9/4
(14:12 / Allied) Mr.ChiefAlot: !yes
(14:12 / All) katsch2222: Player [Mr.ChiefAlot] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 1 more votes are needed to pass.
(14:20 / All) Liomuald: do not say yes
(14:24 / All) Liomuald: they are brainwashing you
(14:27 / All) Liomuald: with lies
(14:29 / Allied) katsch2222: red did you vote?
(14:31 / Allied) Mr.ChiefAlot: lol
(14:35 / All) Mysteriousdewd: i started it
(14:40 / All) katsch2222: oh ok lol
(14:40 / All) Mysteriousdewd: orange please type !yes
(14:42 / All) Lord_Humpwad: need 1 more
(14:44 / All) Liomuald: do not do it
(14:44 / All) Mysteriousdewd: he is breaking the rules
(14:45 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: orange
(14:47 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: type !yes
(14:47 / All) Liomuald: i am not
(15:00 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: dudes trolling
(15:01 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has expired.
(15:27 / All) Liomuald: i'll fight this type of guys till the end.
(15:34 / All) Liomuald: thanks for not voting.

At this point blue attempts to pass the buck off and lie in all chat despite my pleas for the other team to help us to which orange laughs at our unupgraded king because blue literally, not figuratively fucked us in the ass
(18:18 / Allied) katsch2222: !votekick Liomuald
(18:18 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has been started by player [katsch2222]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(18:18 / All) katsch2222: Type !yes to vote.
(18:18 / All) katsch2222: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(18:21 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !yes
(18:21 / All) katsch2222: Player [Mysteriousdewd] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
(18:21 / All) Liomuald: no
(18:29 / All) Mysteriousdewd: please for the love of god
(18:34 / All) Liomuald: i didnt talk at all
(18:35 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: !yes
(18:35 / All) katsch2222: Player [Lord_Humpwad] voted to kick player [Liomuald]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
(18:41 / All) Liomuald: they just keeping on waiting votekick cd
(18:48 / All) Mysteriousdewd: because you are trolling us
(18:50 / All) Mysteriousdewd: on purpose
(18:51 / All) Liomuald: i am not
(18:53 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and it is not acceptable
(18:54 / All) Liomuald: you are trolling me
(19:00 / All) Mysteriousdewd: how?
(19:05 / All) Mysteriousdewd: by asking you to play with the team
(19:05 / All) Liomuald: i will fight this injustice till the end
(19:08 / All) Liomuald: all you talk is troll
(19:10 / All) Mysteriousdewd: by asking you to not be an asshole?
(19:18 / All) katsch2222: A votekick against player [Liomuald] has expired.
(19:19 / All) Liomuald: you are one
(19:21 / Allied) Liomuald: not me
(19:23 / All) Liomuald: not me
(19:36 / All) Mysteriousdewd: if me following the rules is being an asshole
(19:38 / All) Mysteriousdewd: then sure
(19:41 / All) Mysteriousdewd: i am a gaping
(19:42 / All) katsch2222: [Calm] has refilled [Mysteriousdewd]'s cookie jar. [Mysteriousdewd] now has three cookies (try !eat)!
(19:42 / All) Mysteriousdewd: asshole
(19:47 / All) Mysteriousdewd: with shit running down my mouth
(20:11 / All) Liomuald: i am not breaking the rules, you are using the rules to bully me when i dont listen to YOU
(22:45 / Allied) four5six: get pudge
(22:52 / Allied) Mr.ChiefAlot: i will just mass
(23:38 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: their king isnt maxed
(23:45 / Allied) four5six: lel
(25:24 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: check the forum for the ban request teal
(25:24 / Allied) Mr.ChiefAlot: phew
(25:26 / Allied) katsch2222: up
(25:35 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: it will be up real fast after this game
(25:36 / Allied) katsch2222: red up
(25:38 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: it is sadly over man
(25:44 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: gg i think
(25:53 / Allied) four5six: eh
(25:59 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: rage
(26:11 / All) Mysteriousdewd: check the forums for the ban request
(26:15 / Allied) Lord_Humpwad: i got 1st
(26:17 / All) Mysteriousdewd: against blue and orange

You can clearly see blue lieing about not breaking the rules and orange purposely being a dick. You can also see from the pictures here from his buildings and value at the beginning for lvls 8 9 and 10 that he had no intention of building and if you look at his lumber from which he held from LVL 2 ONWARDS he refuses to upgrade king and mass sends to fuck us over.:
http://imgur.com/zVl8Ha3
http://imgur.com/s4RSAlD
http://imgur.com/SVVErts
http://imgur.com/vDusewc

[Mysteriousdewd]

I put some bold on there to help you out since despite me saying what he was saying in game in my original post and the timestamps that your ent bot provides i decided to help you out since you didn't read the chatlogs. Hopefully your system which provides TIMESTAMPS, is acceptable enough

[bezdak]

@Mysteriousdewd
Since your main complaint against Jabba's review was "laziness", I reviewed the whole game without any time stamps just to watch the blue's play and search for any rule violations. However I want you to understand his "laziness" first.

We get many new BRQ every day. Jabba is the one that reviews them the most and resolves the most cases by far. I want you to try to review cases as a mod would for a day and see for yourself, how much time does it take for a case and why we require time stamps of violations to save our time. You might then realize how much time only you cost 2 of our mods in this one case. With a clear time stamps from the beginning we could just skip to those parts and immediately tell, whether he deserves the ban or not.

Back to the case. He solo sent a wyvern lvl 2, because he missed a lvl 1 send. That was his first and the only rule violation which he did not repeat, therefore not enough to ban for.

His build was terrible, however being bad is not a reason to ban. You clearly saw from the lvl 1 he is not familiar with building the roll he got, however didn't do absolutely anything to help him. Instead, you started to bullying and flaming him even since before he built his first tower.

Spoiler!

(00:38 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: nice
(00:41 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: landmines
(00:51 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: but roll with ghouls
(00:56 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: since you don't know how to use em

(01:21 / Allied) Mysteriousdewd: !lms liomuald

You immediately wanted to kick him and as the reason you stated:
(06:30 / All) Mysteriousdewd: hard trolling
However failing a build is nowhere near of any trolling at all. Both you and teal were abusing a VK there, deceiving the other team about him trolling and literally cyber-bullying the guy. Also you did a pure ghosting:
(14:11 / All) Mysteriousdewd: and we are 9/3 9/4
This was providing the relevant information to the other team and it had nothing to do with the fact whether blue should be kicked or not.

Spoiler!

(18:54 / All) Liomuald: you are trolling me
(19:00 / All) Mysteriousdewd: how?
(19:05 / All) Mysteriousdewd: by asking you to play with the team

The only thing you asked him for was not to solo send, which he did.

(19:36 / All) Mysteriousdewd: if me following the rules is being an asshole
If anyone reported you for this game, you'd be banned for VK abuse and ghosting, unlike blue, who actually did not do anything against the rules, just played badly.

I hope you're not gonna say I was lazy in reviewing this case.

Ban request denied.

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