[LTD] Juggling king to death (Multiple ban requests)

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[LTD] Juggling king to death (Multiple ban requests)

Postby Velz » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:29 am

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 465722.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #70
Your Warcraft III Username: Velzu
Violator's Warcraft III Username: [elohoar-uswest.battle.net] [mifir-europe.battle.net] [irpuffeh-uswest.battle.net] [thewird-
useast.battle.net] [japan-uswest.battle.net] [bestlegionnubna-useast.battle.net]
Violated Rule(s): Teamkilling by juggling king to death, votekick abuse, and refuse to kick teamkiller.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 11.38 > 17.34
Any further thoughts: Ok where to start.. I hope you take the time to read everything and/or see the replay of the game, as it's pretty clear that all these 6 players broke one or more rules in this game. Pink obviously is the biggest offender, in which he also admits to, but everyone had a part when not kicking him. He also stated that he doesn't care if he gets banned for the next couple of days as he has 16 hour shifts coming up.

Anyway, at level 1 we get 7 warriors send and our spawn holds the leak from all 3. Opposing team starts a votekick on teal, claiming he's afk. Game gets paused for roughly 1 minute while we try to contact teal in all chat. He obviously doesn't answer and his whole team claims that he is afk without upgrading his unit on lvl 1, and without sending full. We then obviously try to kick him without luck cause 1 player is not voting. Game gets resumed by green and and they hold level 2 without leaks. Draw vote gets spammed, while me and orange claiming that we won't draw after lvl 1. Especially after they fail their send. A flurry of flame comes next and we finally manage to kick him right before level 4 and it's a 3v4 game. Sad, but that's how it is. We already draw 4 games in a row cause of a leaver on level 1. None of the above is a part of the ban request however, as no rules are broken just yet, but its just an introduction as to how the tension started out.

Now at level 5, pink claims that he will go afk and not send in an attempt to lose the game, because he is unhappy with the way green is building in their cross and the fact that me and orange didn't draw the game. These news gets cherished by the opposing team.

Spoiler!
(09:37 / All) BestLegionNubNA: the game is a drawable game
(09:37 / All) irpuffeh: its more so about ettiquite
(09:44 / All) irpuffeh: its not against rules
(09:53 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: and are cross is goin to fail
(09:57 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: and we are goin to lose
(10:03 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: cause he doesnt no how to mass WC
(10:07 / All) irpuffeh: draw pls
(10:09 / All) irpuffeh: !draw
(10:09 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: so ima afk and not send
(10:23 / All) BestLegionNubNA: im afk and not sending
(10:26 / All) BestLegionNubNA: enjoy ur win
(10:41 / All) BestLegionNubNA: since yellow wants to be a prick
(10:45 / All) BestLegionNubNA: yellow can lose
(10:45 / All) thewird: Player [Japan]'s draw vote has been recalled automatically (three minutes have elapsed).
(10:51 / All) Mifir: very nice pink
(11:00 / All) elohoar: :)
(11:37 / All) Velzu: if u attempt to teamkill, be sure this game will be reported



Then purple starts a votekick abuse on me for not drawing the game, followed by 2x !yes from blue and pink. I clearly say in all chat that this is bannable offense votekick abusing someone who didn't break any rules.


Spoiler!
11:38 / All) irpuffeh: !votekick velzu
(11:38 / All) thewird: A votekick against player [Velzu] has been started by player [irpuffeh]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(11:38 / All) thewird: Type !yes to vote.
(11:38 / All) thewird: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(11:42 / All) Mifir: !yes
(11:42 / All) thewird: Player [Mifir] voted to kick player [Velzu]. 3 more votes are needed to pass.
(11:49 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: !yes
(11:49 / All) thewird: Player [BestLegionNubNA] voted to kick player [Velzu]. 2 more votes are needed to pass.
(11:58 / All) Mifir: kick him and we play nice


Then comes level 7 where the biggest violation takes place. We leak 19 units to king with 4 heals. Pink takes the king and juggles him for around 2-3 minutes, until we lose the game with the same 19 leaks still alive. Let it be said that after roughly 30 seconds of juggling the king, I started a votekick on pink for intentionally teamkilling, and I clearly state in all chat that it's bannable offense not kicking a teamkiller. Not a single vote approached, hence the ban request for all the other players in the game aswell.


Spoiler!
(12:14 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: im not sending
(12:19 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: or upping
(12:26 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: im chilling till we lose
(12:29 / Allied) Velzu: thats alright pink.
(12:37 / All) thewird: A votekick against player [Velzu] has expired.
(12:49 / Allied) irpuffeh: double cross
(12:54 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: i work 4 is hour shifts after tonight anyway
(13:02 / Allied) Velzu: you already provided more than enough info for the admins to work with
(13:05 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: 16 hour shifts
(13:07 / Allied) Velzu: when i report this game
(13:09 / All) thewird: Player [irpuffeh]'s draw vote has been recalled automatically (three minutes have elapsed).
(13:22 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: then i play league of legends
(13:25 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: if im banned
(13:29 / Allied) Velzu: go for it
(13:30 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: or diablo
(13:40 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: and ur still a prick to play with
(13:56 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: they had a afk at lvl 1 and u refuse
(14:04 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: thats a dick move


When enemy team sees that pink is juggling the king, they seem fairly happy about it.

Spoiler!
(14:46 / All) irpuffeh: up king yellow
(14:47 / All) irpuffeh: quick
(15:09 / Allied) Velzu: !votekick bestlegionnub
(15:09 / All) thewird: A votekick against player [BestLegionNubNA] has been started by player [Velzu]. 4 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(15:09 / All) thewird: Type !yes to vote.
(15:09 / All) thewird: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!
(15:16 / All) elohoar: ^
(15:18 / All) Mifir: wazap, yellow
(15:21 / All) Mifir: bustin ur nuts?
(15:24 / All) Velzu: dw
(15:27 / All) Velzu: game reported
(15:27 / All) irpuffeh: yellow all about dat 15 elo
(15:49 / All) Mifir: ur king got into some trouble yellow?
(16:04 / All) Velzu: keep talking
(16:06 / All) irpuffeh: we can just !draw
(16:09 / All) irpuffeh: and all be happy?
(16:09 / All) thewird: A votekick against player [BestLegionNubNA] has expired.



In final words, yes it can argueable whether it's the right thing to do to draw the game or not, post their fail send, but all the facts here are clear on 6 different people breaking one or more rules in a single game.


-Velzu

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Re: [LTD] Juggling king to death (Multiple ban requests)

Postby Keelay » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:20 pm

Pink going afk and not sending was clear violation of the rules. (10:09 / Allied) BestLegionNubNA: so ima afk and not send
Yellow not drawing was not a violation of the rules, but it was rather rude. (07:51 / Allied) Velzu: dont draw
Further votekick abuse was used by purple against yellow. (11:38 / All) irpuffeh: !votekick velzu
Votekick against player pink: (15:09 / Allied) Velzu: !votekick bestlegionnub For going afk

Game was drawn by winning team, no elo lost or gained. Ignoring the drama above, there was a leaver in the game and it was eventually drawn.

--See Below--

(16:06 / All) irpuffeh: we can just !draw
(16:09 / All) irpuffeh: and all be happy?
(16:09 / All) thewird: A votekick against player [BestLegionNubNA] has expired.
(16:11 / All) irpuffeh: !draw
(16:11 / All) thewird: Player [irpuffeh] has voted to draw the game. 5 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(16:13 / Allied) elohoar: !draw
(16:13 / All) thewird: Player [elohoar] has voted to draw the game. 4 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(16:15 / Allied) Mifir: !draw
(16:15 / All) thewird: Player [Mifir] has voted to draw the game. 3 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.
(16:21 / All) irpuffeh: we'll pretend it never happened and move on
(16:23 / All) irpuffeh: no win no loss
(16:38 / All) Velzu: You will all be banned
(16:41 / Allied) Japan: pink nice leak
(16:43 / All) Velzu: For not kicking teamkiller
(16:44 / All) Mifir: sure we will
(16:48 / All) irpuffeh: u didnt kick our afk
(16:57 / All) Velzu: I did vote yes to kick him
(17:00 / All) Velzu: U scum
(17:01 / All) irpuffeh: not till level 5
(17:03 / Allied) thewird: !yes
(17:04 / All) Mifir: and draw then?
(17:14 / All) elohoar: quick
(17:16 / All) irpuffeh: !draw
(17:18 / All) irpuffeh: quick
(17:20 / All) irpuffeh: vote running out
(17:31 / Allied) Japan: ?
(17:34 / All) thewird: elohoar has left the game voluntarily.
(17:34 / QUIT) elohoar: Left
(17:34 / All) thewird: irpuffeh has left the game voluntarily.
(17:34 / QUIT) irpuffeh: Left
(17:35 / All) Velzu: Game reported
(17:35 / All) BestLegionNubNA: yw

(17:39 / All) thewird: thewird has left the game voluntarily.
(17:39 / QUIT) thewird: Left
(17:41 / All) Mifir: Japan has left the game voluntarily.
(17:41 / QUIT) Japan: Left
(17:41 / All) Mifir: Mifir has left the game voluntarily.
(17:41 / QUIT) Mifir: Left
(17:44 / All) Velzu: BestLegionNubNA has left the game voluntarily.
(17:44 / QUIT) BestLegionNubNA: Left
(17:45 / All) Velzu: Player [Velzu] is saving the game.
(17:45 / Saving game ?) Velzu: Save game.
(18:10 / All) Velzu: Velzu has left the game voluntarily.
(18:10 / QUIT) Velzu: Left
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Re: [LTD] Juggling king to death (Multiple ban requests)

Postby Velz » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:12 pm

Thanks for your reply. Well, you are right about everything here, except that the game didn't get drawn(Only enemy team voted). And the votekick on pink was not because of him going afk. It was because of him hard-teamkilling by holding the king and juggling him to death, through 4 heals on something that normally wouldnt even cost 1 heal. We almost managed to max regen, for him to not be able to kills us, but it wasn't enough. If he would get votekicked for teamkilling, which is clearly a part of the rules(shown below), then someone else could take over the king to attack the creeps, and we could go on with the game.

Here is a list of all the rules which was broken in this game, pink being violator of every single one of the first 4 rules listed below, purple pink and blue of the 4th, while everyone being violator of the last.

Do not juggle the king preventing him from attacking or killing units.


Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.


Do not deceive players about rules in an attempt to get them banned/to force them to do something they are not obligated to. For example, telling users to draw or they would get banned is deceiving as drawing is a mere vote and not mandatory.


Do not abuse !votekick: its only purpose is to kick game ruinners who violate ENT's rules and negatively impact the game for either or both teams in the game.


You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.


If a votekick is initiated to kick a visible game ruiner, all players are obligated to !yes.
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Re: [LTD] Juggling king to death (Multiple ban requests)

Postby Jabba41 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:49 pm

irpuffeh banned 12 hours as a warning for VK abuse.
Mifir banned 12 hours as a warning for VK abuse.
BestLegionNubNA banned 7 days.
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