[LTD] prohunter@europe.battle.net

[fabspro]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10184977
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #93
Your Warcraft III Username: fabspro@uswest.battle.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: prohunter@europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s):
Refusing to cooperate by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.
Do not deceive players about rules in an attempt to get them banned/to force them to do something they are not obligated to. For example, telling users to draw or they would get banned is deceiving as drawing is a mere vote and not mandatory.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
17:40 approx he upgraded the king instead of saving to send with the team.
23:47 he threatened everyone with a ban for not votekicking a player.
Any further thoughts:
Prohunter stopped saving lumber to send with team and decided to upgrade the king instead, without warning or agreement from the team. This made the team's subsequent send weaker, and although we still won the game it was a flagrant violation of the save-send rule and a risk to the success of the team. The violator also ignored team members in chat which made it impossible to coordinate a send. Finally, he wanted to kick a player and threatened the whole team with a ban if they did not kick. No such rule appears to exist.

Chat log:
(23:47 / All) prohunter: it is the rule that the other team must vote yes for kicking solo send player
(23:56 / All) prohunter: otherwise all dont vote get banned


Posted for second review, I disagree with AmnoN's decision not to ban this player as there are two clear instances of rules being violated.

[Panopticon]

For reference, this is the ban request that was previously denied by @AmnoM
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=122615#p476565

[AmnoN]

Denied. Nobody asked him to stop except for you after he had done all of the upgrading (only 240 wood or so). Also, you griefed and solo sent later, and ghosted information to the other team so don't try to claim that he "made the team's subsequent send weaker".
^my comments from the last ban request. It is very clear why this was denied - 240 wood (3 or 4 upgrades is hardly worth a ban, especially since nobody said anything until he was done upping).

Same comments as the other one that you are challenging - you are welcome to ask for a second opinion, but I would not make a habit of doing it out of spite.

[fabspro]

This is asking for a second opinion. Solo spending lumber is solo spending lumber, according to the rule which says you must save-send. The rules don't say that spending 240 lumber solo is ok. Unless there is another source of rules other than the wiki, which I would highly appreciate being linked to so I can learn them.

[prohunter]

This is exactly " the villain accusing his victim". I am glad judges watched the replay and banned this troll.

[AmnoN]

@fabspro I strongly recommend reading the rules prior to asking for a second opinion as you clearly have not judging from your request. There are certain key details that you have either missed or have conveniently ignored.

[Max-Well]

@fabspro

First of all stop reopening banrequests only because you can't live with an admins decission. Nonetheless I whatched the complete replay and read the chat. The denial of your request by AmnoN was correct. prohunter did never refuse to cooperate. Decissions are made by the team and not by you. The team followed prohunter and you could not live with it. So you started trolling, spamming and ghosting. The whole team ignored you and you don't ask yourselve why? And after the game is over (which you won so prohunter ruined nothing) your start spamming in prohunters ban request.

I see that AmnoN already banned you (2 offences in nearly a week). This gives you the time to rethink you behavior. Now you have your second oppinion. Case closed.

@AmnoN fyi