[DOTA] hurrdurr useast.battle.net

[ForReports]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 373437.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #17
Your Warcraft III Username: forreports
Violator's Warcraft III Username: hurrdurr
Violated Rule(s): MH
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): All game. You can clearly see how he avoids mines and walks around barrels. Best view is min 26
Any further thoughts: You can check out his other games, he does the same thing, avoids all traps and gangs solo players without any vision.
It cant get any easier than this

[BeerLord]

@forreports going to need more than one timestamp.

[Letbell]

After looking through the replay, I noticed some weird and odd movements, and especially at these time lines.
Notes: I also watched both replays many times in full fog mode and non-fog mode.


This is an observation from non-fog & fog mode
(6:08 - 6:11) Meepo zig zag around the corner as if he's trying to dodge something, and attempt to move through the mine, but triggered the activation range. I'm not quite sure why he zig zag around and trying to squeeze through the tree as if he knows something is there..

(14:00) Meepo stepped on the mines, but did not express the same behavior from (6:08 - 6:11)

(18:05-08) Teleporting on creeps through the remote mines. I'm not sure if that's intentional or coincidence.
(18:28) - Went to jungle instead of moving backward. (Nothing suspicious)
(19:43) - Steps on mines, but then avoiding the 2nd placement of remote bombs.
(20:20) Found the techies, but died from ganks - (Nothing suspicious)
(21:55) Steps on a random mine (Nothing suspicious)
(24:37) Steps on a stun trap (Nothing suspicious)
(25:23) 1 Meepo on top of remote mines, and doesn't seem careless about the number of remotes bomb.
(25:50) Died from ganks
(26:08) Buyback and teleport to bot lane to rat, but his behavior seem odd. He steps on mines but no the remotes. However, even if suspicious behavior, he could've avoid the mines either way. Not too sure about this one.
(28:37) Same behavior from (26:08). However, he moved back as if he knows there's a stun trap there.
(31:29) Same behavior, but does stagger the same as (28:37).
(34:38) Doesn't care about anything that have been placed by techies.

Edit1: 6:08-6:11 is the most suspicious behavior so far.
Edit2: From the timeline (20:20) and onward, Meepo expressed behavior of that could or could not be count as suspicious, and it appeared that he probably plays a lot of game & had experiences dealing with techies.
Edit3: Comparing meepo's behavior from one of the game that I had against him: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 373611.w3g

Again, watching the replay from both non-fog and fog mode

(0:22) Meepo Pinged "exactly the location" of techies mine. Maybe a coincidence?
(6:02) Meepo placed a ward
(6:21) Bara who had the lowest elo among the meepo's team who knows how to dodge mines. It's interesting...perhaps a booster account?
(12:46) Meepo died from teamfight. (Nothing suspicious)
(14:12) Meepo placed 2 wards in the scourge's jungle
(16:54) Killed Earth spirit within range of the remote mines (Nothing suspicious)
(18:47) Push the lane, but waiting for creeps to go over, but at (19:50) Teleport over the creeps to avoid remote mines. It's odd that as if meepo knows where the placement of the remotes bomb is.
(21:00) Sf & meepo duel and died.
(22:30) Meepo saw the trigger of the bomb, but don't know if he knows the amount of the bombs and still decided to take it.
(27:07) Bara pinged the location of lina, and after watching the replay a few time. I'm not quite sure if it's coincidence or not.
(29:10) Meepo placed another ward
(29:37) Meepo placed another ward
(41:50) Meepo doesn't seem to care about the placement of remotes mines

Conclusion: Meepo & Bara has a few odd behavior from the (2nd) replay that I played against Meepo, but doesn't have enough evidence against them from this replay (Just a comparison)
Note: This is just from what I've seem through the replays. Need a ENT mod/specialist to do their investigation.

Edit1: Probably meepo doesn't have maphack, and probably he played a lot of dota games and smurfing arounds

[BeerLord]

Im not as impressed with the 608-611 timestamp, because an allie had already died to techies' mines in that spot, so it was reasonable to assume the area would still be mined or mined again.

[phuphew]

Hi People, at first, thanks that you think im maphacking.

But for you information: Those 2 geo games yesterday- in both games was a techs - and i knew that i cant push the lane during my team fights cause of remote mines. And - where else should techs plant mines then infront of the tower. Thats why you see me trying to avoid them. I probably played 6000 of dota games in 10 years - and played techis so often. Do you really think i dont know bomb spots and techies behaviour?
Edit after watching replay: A good techis would have placed mines behind tower. forreports also mentioned in the game: "Geo gonna blink behind tower and rax". Well, that was in the game where he had lina - he didnt use his brain in the game where he had techs himself. Just a player that has < 100 games will run into techs remote in front of tower.

and to comment some of your finding:

(0:22) Meepo Pinged "exactly the location" of techies mine. Maybe a coincidence?

If you watch closely, techs was visible 1 second on minimap. Thats why i knew the bombspot?
Edit 1: keep in mind: get purple, darkgreen or brown as color, cause those colors are harder so see.

(6:21) Bara who had the lowest elo among the meepo's team who knows how to dodge mines. It's interesting...perhaps a booster account?

Did you read the chat? In most cases i just flamed about him not charging in in time. Lol.
And booster account? Can an admin reveal all my accounts? I'm hardly ever playing more than 20 games on 1 account before i get a new one.


You can check many games and you wont find anything suspicous - you'll see me warding even as hard carry - you'll see me typing to my supporters that we need map control and vision and so on. Cause the key to win is: OBSERVER WARDS 150 gold !!!


All i can say: forreports gonna have some bad times the next few weeks. I'll just hunt him down even more with meepo


Edit 1: Is it possible to watch a scene more often? cause i dont find any button to rewind.
Edit 2: It's even more funny to watch me tping to remote mines and techis wasnt fast enough to detonate. And also lina raging all game long that im mh xD
Edit 3: You can ask dhamma - we are sometimes playing together - that im cleary not a mh.
Edit 4: forreports also saw me warding many times and didnt even DEWARD.
Edit 5: Can i report him for votekick abuse on axe early? AND: Can we even take him serious? xD Why did i waste my time on this: check his last post:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=115543&p=451825#p451825

[Letbell]

After watching the replays 5 more time, because it's not rewindable (both fog and non-fog mode), and especially those timeline that phuphew point out. It seem like there's a few point that I missed.

On the 2nd game, I noticed that meepo met SF and techies bot and it's possible that he knew there would be mines on bottom lane. I also re-check many various timeline where creep being push also give a little bit vision of where techies is; this can indicate that techies also places mines or traps there.

So I am starting to doubt meepo has map-hack, but he have good map awareness.

[BeerLord]

@phuphew yes you can report him for votekick abuse.
No there is no rewind button.
Yes I am quite familiar with this player and his previous reports/ban requests.

[BeerLord]

Denied.