[DOTA] WalterBishop

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[DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby fds » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:26 am

Your Warcraft III username: Gogoaw
Violator's Warcraft III username: WalterBishop
Game name or map name: [ENT] DotA arem us/ca #93
Stats page link: https://entgaming.net/replay/view_repla ... 831405.w3g
Rule player violated: MH
Time of incidents ( replay timer ): 8:05 , 9:40 , 12:02 , 15:37 , 15:43 , 17:53 , 21:33 , 23:27 , 25:25, 26:05? , 27:25 , 28:54 , 29:15 and 32:17
Any further thoughts: what about I hate mh'ers

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Re: [DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby Undef » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:22 am

You mentioned a lot of time.. but please mention the reason of your mh statement , so the admins can see the replay easier. Just stating the time does not indicate much to admins.

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Re: [DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby I3omb » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:16 pm

I checked the whole game there were zero fog clicks by void. I will give you a few days to post when he mh and how it happened.

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Re: [DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby fds » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:40 am

8:05 : Lion is going bottom for a gank, void go str8 to the river, instead of just hiding behind trees and wait for lion to arrive and jump in (like a normal person would do a guess)

9:40: scourges are ganking, he is backing like everyone should do, he about to take a way, change, go to tower, and once kunk pass, he goes back in forest, magina arrive and he goes back near the tower

12:56: after lion has been kill, scourges back, kunk was still around ( in fog ), warlock was leaving with treants fallowing him, and blue was near him, instead trying to go for warlock with blue, he just fuck around and by chance* there's someone.

15:37, 15:43 after pugna has been kill, they all go bot for the tower, void stay back alone and pings right scourges 2times, the scourges weren't in vision sigh for a atleast 10seconds, ( it could just be a guess, but still weird imo ), plus he keep backing the further we gets, while all his allies were at the tower.

17:53 blue is been chased, and void is farming, and start backing for no obvious reason. he could have finished his creeps since blue was the target and he was in river near the bottom tower, but he backed while pink was near him. He waited has much as possible.

21:33 void is backing because he knows we are all comming, goes by the forest, then sundently change his way, when kunk was about to get in his way.** he does a little return ( to go hit big creeps or missclick idk ) thinking kunk well just go to the middle. But kunk stay around big creeps.

23:27 void is killing a creep wave, he let the last necro alive to go str8 to kunk, that is in fog the whole time and he take no time to ulti.

25:25 all the sents are hitting the second middle tower, void decide to go to the big creeps, without even touching tower, then when kunk is backing, he change his way to get kunk, then wait for him not too far hiden, ( while he never saw him the whole time ), when finaly go to middle when he sees that kunk goes to base

27:25 even tho void is escaping ( with faster ms with mask of madness ), he timewalk over kunk waterskill, could have done it before, could have done it after, ( meaby he just saw kunk cast it.. but I still find it weird )

28:54 fallow kunk invis see, could be a random way, but not the logical way to go, then see 32:17
32:17 for the sencond time he walk the sameway as kunk(invis) then he ultied right on kunk, talking pink in it at the sametime, but if that ulti was for pink ( this was just a weird one, possible, but weird)

I think most of these moves are weird, even tho he did zero fog clicks. Lmk what you think

Btw sry for my english, its my second language XD
Last edited by fds on Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:52 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: [DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby I3omb » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:48 am

Ok thx for the reply I will prolly check it out in a few hours, loding atm. Your english is fine do not worry about it, I understand it easily enough.

Rechecking with your timestamps
8:05 : At this time, void sees that lion picks up a haste rune, I see nothing wrong with him going to help out lion with the gank, this time doesn't show it mhs
9:40: At this time he should know that mid had been pushed by scrouge and that they were coming bot to gank, however at the 9:45 him back off suddenly because his pathing would meet with kunkka is suspicious. 10:03 he is running for nothing and then he backs off toward the trees and arrives there at 10:14. 10:15 kunkka is headed toward his area of trees, he backs off immediately. 10:21 realizes void magina is really close and begins to back off further. The way he dodges all of you scrouge is pretty impressive, no wards or anything to indicate where you guys are at even.
12:56: Woah it seemed like he was heading toward warlock which is perfectly fine because a treant was following him but why did he turn around suddenly at 12:56, oh that's right we have kunkka right in the fog. Kunkka is dead by 13:08 with help of void's allies.
15:37: 15:37 starts to back off the scrouge are starting to group, 15:39 void pings the group of scrouge. The 4 teammates of void seem to not know that scrouge group was coming. 15:43 void pings their location for a second time. 15:47 kunkka and terroblade head toward void starts to move to leave said area. 15:49 lion gains vision and initiates a fight, 15:51 void joins the fray. The group of scrouge lose said fight.
17:53: 17:51 is when void begins to back off when terror is near, however this timestamp can be argued because blue had provide the vision needed that scrouge was coming to gank.
21:33: 21:31 switches his pathing for some odd reason, only reason seem possible was he would meet kunkka, 21:35 he turns his pathing around yet again, 21:37 changes his pathing to go straight bot lane, 21:43 heads into the river area (not sure why either wards are here), 21:44 changes mind and moves onto different pathing, and he has escaped kunkka's chase.
23:27 why go straight to kunkka, kunkka gets killed

So yea this I am done watching this replay, watching so far beyond a doubt with mh or some other program there is no way possible for void to act the way he did. Too bad he did not fogclick would have made my ban easier.

WalterBishop is hereby banned for 1 year for mh

Any comments pm me

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Re: [DOTA] WalterBishop

Postby Burn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:50 am

!APPROVED

Firstly, the firstmost most suspicious thing is obviously that there is NO evidence or helpful information to help prove that he is NOT maphacking.

These times are where I thought he was suspicious:

10:00 - 10:45 : Avoids all heroes due to suspicious path re-routing (Around 60% chance of maphack)

11:40-12:00 : Goes farming past the river with all miss, then kills a low health terrorblade ilusion unafraid of sunder. (Around 40% chance of maphack, although I didn't check if Sunder was on CD or not)

12:55 : Solo chronospheres Kunkka with the rest of the enemy team just nearby and not on minimap (Around 90% chance of maphack)

21:37 : Suspicious pathing to try and dodge Kunkka from cutting him off (Around 90% chance of maphack)

23:30 : Sees Kunkka, finishes off wave, then heads towards Kunkka to finish him off too (Around 90% chance of maphack)

25:38 : Tries to kill Kunkka farming at ancients while whole team kills tower, suspicious pathing since he knows Kunkka backed early enough. (Around 90% chance of maphack)

28:50 : Sven is going into Rosh pit, but Void hangs back to voidwalk chrono because he knows enemies are coming (Low chance of maphack if player is decent, but this player is obviously really bad. (Can't last hit, hangs back in team fights and has a terrible item build)

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