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[LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:00 am
by donotpingme
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/replay.php?id=9214944
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Hell #49
Your Warcraft III Username: donotpingme@asia.battle.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): Slave Glitch Exploit, Game Ruin, Feeding, Juggling King, Failure to Heal
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): The entire game
Any further thoughts: The opposite team refused to draw and to kick the offending player while knowing that out of three players one quit round one and one was intentionally feeding / cheating and game ruining. There needs to be a rule for that as well.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:29 am
by Vehl
Yeah, threatening us with "Admins" if we don't !drawis didn't seem right. Especially since (being relatively new) I had no clue what the hell you were talking about .. So maybe you are right and we should have vote kicked or drawed or whatever you wanted to do but I just wanted to play the game..

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:46 am
by donotpingme
You knew that we lost a player in round one that is an immediate draw by all rights. Then you knew he was feeding and you mocked me rather than to kick the offender or draw the game. Actually you are the offender. The admins will see the game. You did more than play dumb. You completely and intentionally threw that game. And for someone who doesn't know anything you sure found your way to this forum pretty quickly. And why are you using the term "us" when all of the other players were on the opposite team? And you continued to use the slave exploit exactly like someone who knew what was going on even after being warned about it. The entire game you only upped one. Now when they banned me for using the slave exploit this week the admins said that was the deciding factor as they observed I didn't know as I upped all of mine.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:12 am
by Vehl
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ming:Rules
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... g:LTDRules

If you can point out where it says we MUST !draw if a player leaves the game round one then I will concede that to you. The rest is up for interpretation but being a new player I just wanted to play the game out and saw nothing overtly wrong with his play .. then again I haven't been playing long enough to detect subtleties you might have picked up on.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:14 am
by Vehl
Honestly just read through the rules and found this section...

Do not deceive players about rules in an attempt to get them banned (note, !draw is not an obligation, but a vote).

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:26 am
by donotpingme
You are intentionally avoiding the rule regarding feeding, juggling the king and refusing to heal, refusing teamplay and glitch exploit while you attempt to show the other players were not required to draw or kick. I also did not ask for the draw until it was obvious that not only had we lost a player in round one but that you were intent on game ruin / cheating and the other team refused to kick you.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:26 am
by bigdaddy
@Vehl http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ng:VKRules

You are obligated to !votekick any player that has broken any of ENT's rules. If someone or several indicate that a particular player is game ruining, you, as a player in the game, are obligated to question/check about the situation/claim.

Edit: Instead of making a second post ill just put this under.

Spoiler!
15:29 [All] donotpingme: feeding and using slave glitch exploit
15:41 [All] donotpingme: which i warned him about
15:51 [All] donotpingme: and its bannable on this map
15:55 [All] SoBored: slave glitch exploit?
15:59 [All] Vehl: put it on the forums then
16:03 [All] donotpingme: they pay 9 gold ea
16:06 [All] Vehl: ent forums will take care of him

(20:51 / All) donotpingme: i am making you aware of the rules of the server
(21:14 / All) RequiemOfVipers: were not cheating or doing wtf eevr ur saying so it dont matter
(21:21 / All) donotpingme: he is
(21:32 / Allied) Vehl: oh i sent early
(21:33 / Allied) Vehl: lol
(21:33 / All) donotpingme: and you are by allowing him to continue
(21:34 / Allied) Vehl: sorry
(21:37 / Allied) Vehl: this guy distracting me
(21:39 / Allied) Vehl: ..
(21:46 / All) SoBored: he is a troll. It sucks but it happens. We don
(21:46 / All) donotpingme: that is why they have votekick
(22:03 / All) SoBored: We don't have to ruin our game because you got screwed man.
(22:05 / Allied) Vehl: oh wait
(22:06 / Allied) Vehl: jk

7:01 <N_O_OB> 0x11: Point order: [Servant] (X: 2112.00, Y: 4416.00, flags: 0x0005)
7:02 <N_O_OB> 0x11: Point order: [Servant] (X: 2240.00, Y: 4416.00, flags: 0x0005)
7:02 <N_O_OB> 0x11: Point order: [Servant] (X: 2368.00, Y: 4416.00, flags: 0x0005)
8:47 <N_O_OB> 0x11: Point order: [Servant] (X: 1472.00, Y: 4416.00, flags: 0x0005)
8:39 <N_O_OB> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Servant], 0x000E2F4100005A1A
8:42 <N_O_OB> 0x10: Immediate order: [Slavemaster] (flags: 0x0040)

I agree with a ban against N_O_O_B for servant abuse.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:57 am
by Vehl
Ok will happily votekick anyone abusing this in the future thanks for clarification

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:55 am
by donotpingme
This is not about clarification. This is about a ban for multiple rule violations. Of which failure to votekick yourself is not one of the offenses listed. Nice try though.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:12 am
by bongerman
New players dont abuse exploits because they generally don't know about them because the're new. You seem 100% troll trying to appear as new but obv a smurf account.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:02 pm
by KiwiKiller[QQ]
@donotpingme

Please provide proper timestamps where the violator is violating rules.

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:33 pm
by Vehl
@bongerman you might want to watch the replay .. I wasn't exploiting but donotping me implied our team of multiboxing in the game ..

(18:02 / All) Vehl: it's a game
(18:14 / All) donotpingme: a game that is going to the admins remember
(18:25 / All) RequiemOfVipers: so send it remember we dont control your team
(18:33 / All) donotpingme: and if you are multiboxing its an ip ban
(18:49 / All) SoBored: what the hell is multiboxing
(18:52 / All) donotpingme: you do control votekick when you see an obvious rule violation
(19:04 / All) Vehl: i didn't see anything
(19:06 / All) RequiemOfVipers: ruin our game cuz your team is bad?
(19:44 / All) RequiemOfVipers: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tip: Check out our forum at entgaming.net for our rules, list of current games, and player statistics!
(19:48 / All) donotpingme: multiboxing is when you plant a player on the other side to lose using the same ip address
(20:19 / All) donotpingme: and they can see if his username is on any of your accounts

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:34 pm
by AmnoN
@vehl If the original poster broke a rule, please feel free to post a ban request. This is not the place for this discussion (e.g. deceiving players about rules) and we generally do not ban the original poster unless someone files a separate one against the player.

[LTD] donotpingme@asia.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:45 pm
by Vehl
Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/replay.php?id=9214944
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Hell #49
Your Warcraft III Username: vehl@useast.battle.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: donotpingme@asia.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): Threatening/mocking community members, Also while not listed as a rule falsely accused me and my teammate of multiboxing on the forums and in game.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 18:14, 20:19
Any further thoughts: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=107451 (For reference)

(18:02 / All) Vehl: it's a game
(18:14 / All) donotpingme: a game that is going to the admins remember
(18:25 / All) RequiemOfVipers: so send it remember we dont control your team
(18:33 / All) donotpingme: and if you are multiboxing its an ip ban
(18:49 / All) SoBored: what the hell is multiboxing
(18:52 / All) donotpingme: you do control votekick when you see an obvious rule violation
(19:04 / All) Vehl: i didn't see anything
(19:06 / All) RequiemOfVipers: ruin our game cuz your team is bad?
(19:44 / All) RequiemOfVipers: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tip: Check out our forum at entgaming.net for our rules, list of current games, and player statistics!
(19:48 / All) donotpingme: multiboxing is when you plant a player on the other side to lose using the same ip address
(20:19 / All) donotpingme: and they can see if his username is on any of your accounts

Re: [LTD] n_o_ob @ europe.battle.net

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:51 pm
by SLSGuennter
donotpingme wrote:This is not about clarification. This is about a ban for multiple rule violations. Of which failure to votekick yourself is not one of the offenses listed. Nice try though.

Vehl wasnt the guy in your team who was abusing the glitch ^^ May it be you mixed smth up here?
Anyway,
@zochiezach08
What do you think about the non-happening votekick? I merged it with the other thread (the one AGAINST donotpingme). Would be awesome if you could write your oppinion what should happen (according to rules ofc), since this is a complex case and solving smth like this (imo) shows a lot of knowledge of the rules and other important stuff on the way to a staffposition.

I will process this tomorrow evening or smth, if there is no answer :)

Pls be pacient guys!

p.s.: Not talking about the multibox ofc, since you cant check it ^^