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[LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:30 pm
by Mixcooo
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 496938.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #21
Your Warcraft III Username: wc3isFUN
Violator's Warcraft III Username: zeropointe
Violated Rule(s): Tk on 14 with king.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): min 33 id say.
Any further thoughts:

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:32 pm
by Mixcooo
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 496938.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #21
Your Warcraft III Username: wc3isFUN
Violator's Warcraft III Username: zeropointe
Violated Rule(s): Tk on 14 with king.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): min 33 id say.
Any further thoughts: We had enough heals, (2) to survive king leak.

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:40 am
by artour
Kinging can be hard and ppl make mistakes, especially when team is flaming them while they're trying to control

(33:08 / Allied) wc3isFUN: hallo
(33:08 / Allied) wc3isFUN: king
(33:10 / Allied) wc3isFUN: ????
(33:28 / Allied) wc3isFUN: wtf
(33:29 / Allied) wc3isFUN: r u doing
(33:31 / Allied) wc3isFUN: ?
(33:38 / Allied) wc3isFUN: ure tk
(33:43 / Allied) wc3isFUN: enjoy report


I was in that game and his control wasn't perfect but definitely not TK on purpose. Not sure if you even understand how frustrating it is to king when you're trying your best to target units and you have a backseat driver teammate berating you.

As far as I know you can't ban people for making mistakes or playing suboptimally.

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:43 pm
by Unitil
Below is my opinion based on the above claims, and what I've reviewed from the replay.

Team Kill: Juggling King
Spoiler!
After reviewing the replay, it does not appear that he was intentionally trying to team kill your king. All flags/attacks placed during wave 14 were at an attempt to kill the high value targets first, and attack weak units also.

Concluding Thoughts:
Just because you did not pass a specific wave due to not perfect handling of the king does not mean that he was intentionally team killing by juggling the king.

There are two rules with regards to handling of the king:
• Do not juggle the king preventing him from attacking or killing units.
• Do not change the king's target to delay killing, except to efficiently kill multiple targets or kill higher priority targets such as sent units or low hp units. Range stomping and backward waving is allowed.

Neither of these rules were broken during the course of this game. He handled the king to the best of his ability at the times where he was required.

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:58 am
by Mixcooo
If he isnt good with king, why not let someone else handle it? We died because of his ability to use to king.

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:14 pm
by Unitil
At no point earlier in the game did you mention anything about the king. What Artour posted above is the only thing that was actually posted regarding your outlook of his playing of the king. Not handling the king perfectly, and no one asking for control does not mean he was intentionally killing the king.

Had you wished to control the king yourself, then you should have asked prior to Level 14. Asking within seconds of the king becoming dead would not have allowed you to save him either.

I do not believe discussing this anymore benefits the ban in question. As stated above, he has broken no rules this game.

Re: [LTD] zeropointe useast.battle.net

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:29 pm
by Quetra
His king control was not good. But it was clear he was trying to control it to the best of his ability. In addition nobody asked him to relinquish control, in future if the control is really bad you should ask them to give up control. It may be bannable if they then refuse to cooperate (assuming there is a reason to give up control.). @Mixcooo

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