[DOTA] sdmeandqq@uswest.battle.net (gameruin) / 1rapeyurm0mhard@uswest.battle.net legionlord.@useast.battle.net

[Issues]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 604733.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #38
Your Warcraft III Username: 1Six8@useast.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: sdmeandqq@uswest.battle.net (gameruin) / 1rapeyurm0mhard@uswest.battle.net legionlord.@useast.battle.net rama1313@asia.battle.net 3hord3@europe.battle.net fegg@useast.battle.net (refusal to kick)
Violated Rule(s): throw gameruin/ refusal to kick
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
Any further thoughts:

Sequence 21:00 - Runs forward midlane chasing 3 heroes with drow far behind him turns around to creep then gets caught (0-3)

Sequence 23:00 - Runs from the top river into 3 heroes (drow was missled and far behind backing) gets caught and dies (0-4)
Drow tells him to stop being careless and Sven starts blaming rest of team
(23:11 / Allied) diamont.am: sven
(23:15 / Allied) diamont.am: stop doing an idiot
(23:15 / Allied) sdmeandqq: sup bro
(23:17 / Allied) 1SIX8: can u stop feeding
(23:19 / Allied) sdmeandqq: ya you too
(23:19 / Allied) diamont.am: go farm
(23:23 / Allied) 1SIX8: so bad
(23:30 / Allied) sdmeandqq: lvl 7 furion
(23:33 / Allied) sdmeandqq: its 22 - 11
(23:36 / Allied) sdmeandqq: stop acting
(23:38 / Allied) sdmeandqq: like its close
(23:40 / Allied) 1SIX8: level 8 sven isntm uch better
(23:49 / Allied) sdmeandqq: nah 1 6 sb is best

Sequence 24:50 - Instead of circling around through top of base he runs directly into CK and Tusk who can instantly kill him which they end up doing and he is now (0-5)

Sequence 29:30 - Solo creeps our jungle when we have no vision of enemy team. Proceeds to get caught (0-7) then uses !ff command
(29:46 / Allied) sdmeandqq: !ff
At this point it becomes obvious that he no longer wants to be in the game and doesn't care about the outcome just wants it to be over.

Sequence 31:02 - Solo defends top tower that is gone. Sees 2 heroes (huskar with blink) that can kill him instantly yet decides to stick around and walk in circles. Proceeds to get caught and dies once again with no teammates around him as he is now (0-8)

At this point I initiate the first votekick stating:
(31:31 / All) 1SIX8: kick he just runs into u guys
(31:32 / All) sdmeandqq: lmao
he finds the comment humorous

He initiates a votekick against me out of spite
(32:25 / Allied) sdmeandqq: !votekick 1six8

Sequence 32:20 - He sees blue pushing at top with 3 other heroes missing but decides that it would be smart to creep in our jungle close to him.
He proceeds to run into gyro who he stuns then runs top towards where blue was and

Spoiler!

dies

now he's

Spoiler!

0-9

At this point I initiate the 2nd votekick and our entire team wants to kick him and tries to with Sentinel refusing to do so. At what point does this redundant behavior no longer become acceptable to kick. He used the !ff command and continued to feed and not care about the game. At what point does it change from being a "noob" to intentional game ruin.

Sequence 34:30 decides to waste time soloing rosh barely does any damage then just runs back to base to heal - 2 minutes wasted pointless action (doesn't care about game)

Sequence 36:10 pretty much just runs around the top part of the map and circles towards mid and runs into chaos knight who just kills him instantly and is 0-10

This is in part a response to user 1rapeyurm0mhard@uswest.battle.net who posted viewtopic.php?f=8&t=126511&p=490858#p490858. He stated, "Brown wasn't feeding. He was supporting with stunn in every game fight. While yunero farm all game. Votekick a player just because he was 0-9." How can someone make such a comment and post the ban request minutes after the game ended. It is apparent that he did not even review the replay to check what happened when the user died. Also, how can one state that he supported the team EVERY FIGHT. Ridiculous and a waste of time for him to even post BR.

Moderator Zam wrote

Votekicks were unnecessary. Brown is just a low level player and you can check that by SD'ing him. He didn't feed intentionally nor game-ruin. No one on your team had any teamwork except furion (who was 2-2 at one point and bought all the wards pretty much). All you did was reply back, "stop feeding." You gave zero advice or instructions and simply started votekicking. When brown was 0-2, you begin telling him to stop feeding already. Enemy team just played better and had teamwork.

If you check chat, drow (dg) even told him to stop being careless and to just farm whereas he proceeds to blame rest of team.
He did not even bother watching replay. He simply checked the players stats who game ruined and read a portion of the chat which led to him making an abrupt decision.

I appreciate everything the mods do and I know that it is imperative to sort through as many meaningless BR as possible but I would appreciate it if one of the mods who has the time to actually view the replay and provide clarity as to whether or not this can be classified as game ruin or are we to just chalk it up being a "noob." I don't mind noobs I'll usually just avoid them but it should be unacceptable for someone to just repeatedly die over and over again in a similar fashion. Thanks for you time.

Edit: Post name

[Astros]

How do you know what I did or didn't do? I watched the replay: Here's what YOU did:

Run around, farm, wait for omnislash, get a kill, blame your teammates for "feeding" when you did nothing to help in team fights. You played a ME-ME-ME game expecting your teammates (who were clearly lower level players compared to the enemy team) to hold off the enemy team while you simply blamed them. Your kills strictly came off Omnislash. They weren't high impact kills that helped your team at all. All you cared about was yourself and when you realized your team was losing and your solo play wasn't enough to carry, you started blaming.

Go check Brown and his stats. He's just a low level player. From the replay, he got ganked, tried to defend but no one was around in some cases, and quite frankly, your team had zero teamwork outside of Furion. As soon as he was 0-2, you're already telling him to stop feeding. How is 0-2 feeding?

Typing !ff doesn't mean he doesn't care about the game. It means he doesn't think this team can win. You're making assumptions as if you're his psychologist but you don't acknowledge that a large reason why your team lost is also due to your lack of teamplay. You had one assist in a 50 minute game.

You should quit implying things when you have no evidence. I did watch the game. And any other moderator would see that brown was just a low level player on a team where zero teamwork was evident and a Yurnero who thought he was better than he really is. It's funny you say you were a DIHL mod and you can't understand team concepts. It's obvious from your gameplay that you think you're better than you really are. Your team feeding wasn't the problem. They were doing well until the other team pushed and you were almost nowhere to be around.

I'll let another mod handle this as you wish but you should be thankful I gave you a warning for votekick abuse and semi-implying you're a mod.

[Quetra]

21:00

Gets caught and tries to escape. Didn't see the gank coming since he didn't have vision for long. Doesn't look like throwing to me.

23:00

Wasn't a good play, but he only had vision of 1. Was pretty obvious it was unsafe for him to be there but he wasn't purposefully running into the whole team. Careless but not feeding.

24:50

Tries to defend. Bad path to take to defend but again, I don't think he was throwing. He's getting repeatedly stunned in these timestamps and dying before he can do anything.

29:30

He's jungling and gets caught. Tries to fight. Again, I don't think he's throwing just because he's jungling without wards. There is no evidence he is trying to lose by doing this, he just seems inexperienced.

31:02

You can see him trying to stay at range. Yes he got blinked and it was possible to see that coming, but if he was throwing why bother trying to be careful in the first place.

The rest of the timestamps are pretty similar. He is a bad player and you can't kick him just because he's bad. I see no evidence he was purposefully trying to throw.

Denied.

[Astros]

Since I'm nice, I double-checked the review. Actually, you were right. I could've reviewed it better. Here's what I forgot to mention:

12:00 - You have TP. You chose not to TP mid to help your team. Farming top/jungle while your team fights at mid. You say nothing to your team.
12:45 - You are still farming while your team tries to defend the tower. Lo-and-behold, you show up to omnislash after your team is basically dead.
22:00 - You get caught standing right in front of the tower instead of behind it and your team tries to help and ends up dying along with you.
27:09 - What kind of play is this? How is this any different from how the rest of your teammates are dying?
28:37 - Brown tries to defend top tower. No one shows up to help him.
29:00 - Your team gets into a fight. You didn't even use healing ward to help your teammates but you conveniently use it to heal yourself.

Conclusion:
1) You play for yourself. You think you're better than you really are. You thought you could solo carry so you went farming and ignored your teammates. Gave zero advice or instructions all game other than empty statements such as "stop feeding." Many of your kills occur at the expense of your teammates. When you're not omnislashing them for your freebie kills, your team contributes and you just clean it up. You only use healing ward for yourself and solely seek for kills rather than creating plays for your teammates.
2) Sven didn't intentionally feed. He didn't get to farm because the enemy team consistently pressured your team all game. Considering Sven is rather useless late game when unfarmed, there wasn't much he could do by then.
3) Your votekicks were uncalled for.
4) Stop assuming things and try to improve your own gameplay before you start demanding things from your teammates.