[DOTA] despair & kids.stfu @ uswest.battle.net MH

[SillyHackers]

Your Warcraft III username: DeepMoisture
Violator's Warcraft III username: despair @ uswest.battle.net & kids.stfu@ uswest.battle.net
Game name or map name: [ENT] DotA LoD -sdems6bod2 #65
Stats page link: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 845916.w3g
Rule player violated: MH
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer):
For Kids.Stfu (Sylla - teal):
Min 0 - DD rune
Min 7 - square green click on Sniper (fog click?)
Min 15 - teal pinging my ward location
Min 16 - square green click mid
Min 17-18 - goes for pink (limited to no sight)
Min 20 - teal pinging my ward location again
Min 23 - green square click/zoom on Sent woods near ward/camp
Despair (AA - yellow):
Min 2 - haste rune (no sight) - EMPTIES BOTTLE BEFOREHAND AT MID
Min 6 - invis rune (no sight)
Min 8 - green square click mid second tier tower (fog click?)
Min 11 - another green square click @ SS
Min 12 - DD rune (no sight) green square click id
Min 12:43 - another click
Min 13:48 - another click
Min 14:31 - another click
Min 15 - ward destroyed immediately after I planted it without sight/knowledge of my approach (other than his MH)
Min 16:22 - another click
Min 17:05 - another click
Min 18:01 - another click
Min 20:05 - another click
You get the drift.
Any further thoughts: I think I've reported at least eight MH'rs this week, with at least 3 of them currently being banned and another 3 currently awaiting admin review. You guys gonna come up with a better way to permanently ban these players from ENT or what?

[zehk]

Well, I watched replay and i couldn't find any fog click except the one NS made(False positive). I don't know what those green squares are, but they are nothing to do with maphack. Syllabear was waiting at bot rune spot before min 0, I don't understand why u thought it was suspicious. All the sentinel guys could see there was an observer ward on the cliff between mid and bot second towers, because AA warded there before NS did. Where else the second observer ward would be? Rosh, obviously. I think that's why Syllabear pinged two ward spots at about min 15.
AA warded both observer wards and sentry wards(counterwarding) the whole game for vision. There was only one suspicious moment when AA placed an observer ward on the cliff and snow balled to NS right away. But if AA were a maphacker, he wouldn't have done it because there were two other scourage guys around. And those green squares, I reiterate, have NOTHING to do with maphack. Google "W3MHDET.MIXTAPE" and ask admins or mods how to use it. That will help you a lot.

[SillyHackers]

I didn't actually make any fog clicks - I only wrote (fog click?), note the question-mark. And I have asked about those fucking little green square pings about three times now in different posts, and no one ever specifies what they actually are. =_=

[ncsangung]

be gentle when you are asking for things, no one would not want to try to find out what you are askign for, if your attitude is like that poor.

[Medicca]

For Kids.Stfu (Sylla - teal):
Min 0 - DD rune He sat there before 0:00
Min 7 - square green click on Sniper (fog click?)
Min 15 - teal pinging my ward locationHe did ping multiple spots, possible checking with shadow dance
Min 16 - square green click mid
Min 17-18 - goes for pink (limited to no sight) Pink was mid, they saw him
Min 20 - teal pinging my ward location again This one is the one that has my suspicions arousedOn closer inspection, it seems like he's been pinging places for yellow to ward all game. Yellow has been warding that place multiple times already.
Min 23 - green square click/zoom on Sent woods near ward/camp
Despair (AA - yellow):
Min 2 - haste rune (no sight) - EMPTIES BOTTLE BEFOREHAND AT MID He didn't even have a bottle?
Min 6 - invis rune (no sight) He was going bot, perhaps lucky
Min 8 - green square click mid second tier tower (fog click?)
Min 11 - another green square click @ SS
Min 12 - DD rune (no sight) green square click id He had a ward on bot river so he knew rune was top
Min 12:43 - another click
Min 13:48 - another click
Min 14:31 - another click
Min 15 - ward destroyed immediately after I planted it without sight/knowledge of my approach (other than his MH) Teal pinged for him, possible due to his shadow dance being triggered off by ward vision. Your ward was at ~12 minutes. This is not "immediately" after
Min 16:22 - another click
Min 17:05 - another click
Min 18:01 - another click
Min 20:05 - another click

The two of them seem to be using another program for voice chat as they only communicate with each other in-game using pings while typing to other teammates. For now, I'm going to !deny it for lack of evidence, however, I will be looking at kids.stfu's other games. EDIT: His other games do not arouse suspicion either.

And I don't see the green squares? They aren't fogclicks at the least.