[DOTA] PalBWM & flip714 - votekick abuse, griefing, lying about rules, saving game (Cancel plz, ty)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:00 am
Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 705169.w3g
Game Name: https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/game/11705169/
Your Warcraft III Username: thereisonlyzul
Violator's Warcraft III Username: PalBWM, flip714
Violated Rule(s): votekick abuse, lying about rules to get someone kicked, general griefing, saving game
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 24, 26:25, 34:14, 38:23, 49:26
Any further thoughts:
PalBWM:
Start raging from beginning. He went 0-6 with PA by 30 minutes and just toxic all around. But not reporting for flaming since it wasn't excessive. But his general attitude is just not trying, griefing. He has recent BRQs for similar offense.
Blames whole team team but specifically targeted the Bear only player. I was 5-1 when he initiated vk against me while he was 0-6. Even though it was just 1 vk from him and nobody voted, but I feel in combination with his overall attitude it is an indication of griefing. He fed all game and didn't want to try and just dishing out blame at the whole team. His final score was 3/13/3 low combination of kills and assists b/c he was never in teamfights b/c he was griefing.
Vk abuse, griefing, lying about rules:
His griefing attitude in the whole game:
Flaming team, general attitude:
flip714:
Not entirely sure what is his problem since he was there with my bear on several ganks. He was visibly seeing what I was doing yet he votekick abuse twice and saved the game.
Vk abuse twice:
(26:25 / Allied) flip714: !votekick ther
(34:14 / Allied) flip714: !votekick there
Saving:
(49:26 / Saving game ?) flip714: Save game.
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Bear Strat Verification:
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=103814&p=410730&hilit=bear+only#p410730
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=126199&hilit=bear+only&start=60
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=103754&p=409912&hilit=bear+only#p409912
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Note from Me:
I wrote the Sylla guide posted in the DOTA section on this forum b/c I actually play multiple versions of Sylla. I don't always go this strategy, in fact I rarely do. There are people who abuse this build, yes I know. But I never do. This game is vs a techies and a spectre and we have no real counter against rhasta/techies push. The bear only strategy was the right logical choice. I got the radiance in 12 minutes, we were already losing towers and hugging/defending. We needed an early pusher, lane controller, to give breathing room for PA and Husk to grow. Was not expecting the PA to go 3-13 and absolutely useless at 44 minutes.
My APM is actually higher in this bear mode than how I play other heroes, I get into that OCD zone where I control all the lanes, push, redirect creeps, gank, and harass. I intercepted the Rhasta at least 3-4 times midlane, forcing him to run or ult my bear instead of reaching the rax. Prolonging the game was the strategy, to let our late carries take over. I've done this before in other games and it works when you have decent players who know what to do with the time bought for them.
I even got a compliment from the opponent:
(30:54 / All) lalalalalala: bear is only reason u in this game
Game Name: https://entgaming.net/openstats/dota/game/11705169/
Your Warcraft III Username: thereisonlyzul
Violator's Warcraft III Username: PalBWM, flip714
Violated Rule(s): votekick abuse, lying about rules to get someone kicked, general griefing, saving game
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 24, 26:25, 34:14, 38:23, 49:26
Any further thoughts:
PalBWM:
Start raging from beginning. He went 0-6 with PA by 30 minutes and just toxic all around. But not reporting for flaming since it wasn't excessive. But his general attitude is just not trying, griefing. He has recent BRQs for similar offense.
Blames whole team team but specifically targeted the Bear only player. I was 5-1 when he initiated vk against me while he was 0-6. Even though it was just 1 vk from him and nobody voted, but I feel in combination with his overall attitude it is an indication of griefing. He fed all game and didn't want to try and just dishing out blame at the whole team. His final score was 3/13/3 low combination of kills and assists b/c he was never in teamfights b/c he was griefing.
Vk abuse, griefing, lying about rules:
Spoiler!
His griefing attitude in the whole game:
Spoiler!
Flaming team, general attitude:
Spoiler!
flip714:
Not entirely sure what is his problem since he was there with my bear on several ganks. He was visibly seeing what I was doing yet he votekick abuse twice and saved the game.
Vk abuse twice:
(26:25 / Allied) flip714: !votekick ther
(34:14 / Allied) flip714: !votekick there
Saving:
(49:26 / Saving game ?) flip714: Save game.
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Bear Strat Verification:
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=103814&p=410730&hilit=bear+only#p410730
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=126199&hilit=bear+only&start=60
Would first like to remind anyone who doesn't know - This strategy, even though may be frowned upon by some due to it's nature, is allowed on ENT. If you'd like for that to change, feel free to suggest it. For future reference, if anything specifically involving DotA and it's game-play are forbidden by the ENT staff such as strategy and etc. It'll be posted on our wiki.
Ent Oversight Staff
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=103754&p=409912&hilit=bear+only#p409912
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Note from Me:
I wrote the Sylla guide posted in the DOTA section on this forum b/c I actually play multiple versions of Sylla. I don't always go this strategy, in fact I rarely do. There are people who abuse this build, yes I know. But I never do. This game is vs a techies and a spectre and we have no real counter against rhasta/techies push. The bear only strategy was the right logical choice. I got the radiance in 12 minutes, we were already losing towers and hugging/defending. We needed an early pusher, lane controller, to give breathing room for PA and Husk to grow. Was not expecting the PA to go 3-13 and absolutely useless at 44 minutes.
My APM is actually higher in this bear mode than how I play other heroes, I get into that OCD zone where I control all the lanes, push, redirect creeps, gank, and harass. I intercepted the Rhasta at least 3-4 times midlane, forcing him to run or ult my bear instead of reaching the rax. Prolonging the game was the strategy, to let our late carries take over. I've done this before in other games and it works when you have decent players who know what to do with the time bought for them.
I even got a compliment from the opponent:
(30:54 / All) lalalalalala: bear is only reason u in this game
