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[Drink]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 753913.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #39
Your Warcraft III Username:
Violator's Warcraft III Username: xxxmaxxx
Violated Rule(s): AFK patrolling fountain, others refused to votekick
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 27 minutes
Any further thoughts:


xxxmaxxx for AFK patrol fountain
openbase333, Smurfers, ]-smasher-[ for not voting.

@Rain- will you actually do your job this time and look at the replay instead of just deny because there wasn't a timestamp? If you just open the chat, it's pretty obvious. Jesus fucking christ, this is why ENT will die quickly.

[Rain-]

You can add your username, and we are volunteers not a hired person if you do not wish to put the necessary information no admin will review.

[Drink]

We're supposed to be working together here to keep this community alive. I report people that are ruining the community and you ban them. See how that works? Regardless of whether it's a job or volunteering, it's your responsibility to uphold that end of the process. If you're going to avoid those responsibilities because of bullshit reasoning, you may as well quit moderating because your community will die soon and there will be nothing left to moderate.

[chrismokvack]

We're supposed to be working together here to keep this community alive.

You're right. It's easy for you to put the timestamps because you were in the game and know roughly where to find them. It's one game for you. It's hundreds of games for moderators. How hard is it to write your username? Come on!

bullshit reasoning.

If all players reasoned like you there would be no volunteers and no community.

[Drink]

@chrismokvack
@Rain-

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=142210

Why did that result in a ban without timestamps while my request is being scrutinized? Why does it matter what my username is? It's irrelevant.

The guy is ruining games and you can't be bothered to review it because of some bullshit, but you'll review another one despite the same bullshit, no problem?

[Draco]

@drink I have to agree with you here. I never understood why you need to put your username in a ban report, i've had literally dozens of fans who follow my games and throw on purpose/i.p dodge so i'd rather not post my acc name. Does that really matter anyway? and if i was a mod all these ban requests would be done in a day. Sadly the same trolls have been throwing non stop for years like Master_Pain who has 20,000 games as the same hero but still purposely griefs in 75%+ of his games and he gets to use the "Noob" excuse and the ent admins fall for it. Like no, these 500 elo players have 10,000+ games they aren't noobs they just purposely want low ELO it's not rocket science lmfao

Also this xxxMax guy is one of the biggest trolls i've ever seen, he fed literally 16 deaths the game i was in and griefed hard refusing to use any teamwork. But i didnt report it since I know they would just say hes a noob or he'd get like a 2 day ban.

If you look at your last report ; viewtopic.php?f=24&t=142123

The bara clearly says in chat hes going to feed the other team, ends the game with 17 deaths.

That shouldnt take more than 30 seconds to confirm and ban the thrower. Since this guy "Cuzinhorox" has done this to all of us before

[lex-]

Drink, y are you so mad at this time bro.

[FalenGa]

Username is required to detect whether or not you were actually in the game, and also who exactly were you, for practical reasons. We've had several cases where people would browse through someone's history trying to nit-pick anything remotely bannable and report them, aka witch hunting.

This was a 53 minute game. Assuming you were part of the game, you could easily recall or even note during the game which violation occured and when. Something like a timestamp. Why should we invest so much time for a single replay, when you could easily provide the necessary and required information?

Finally, yes, we are supposed to be working together on this. You, the user, provide all the information we ask for, while we, the staff, use that information to process your request at maximum efficiency. If we're asking for something, there's probably a good reason behind it.

[Drink]

@FalenGa I noted the time in this post...but my username is irrelevant for a ban. There was another post that I made for another game ruiner that did not have a timestamp. @Rain- closed it without doing any review at all. But he randomly reviews other replays without timestamps right around the same time?

Just trying to understand the logic here. I could understand if it wasn't a super obvious violation, but there wasn't even an attempt to look. Then I have to create a brand new post in order to clean up the community because the original was closed?

[Unitil]

Per the ban request guidelines on our wiki: LINK

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• Ban requests without proper information (violator's username, timestamp, violated rule) may be denied without further notification.

This is not limited to the violators information, and we require the entirety of the request be filled out per the provided form. This is to avoid witch hunts, and of the like, per what FalenGa has noted above.

Your previous request was denied and not reviewed for two reasons.
• Failure to add your username
• Failure to provide valid timestamps when requested
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=142123

Do note, it is up to the staff member to choose to review an incomplete request, and may be denied. This is especially true when information has been requested, and the OP has failed to comply.

We aren't paid for this position, and if you're unwilling to provide the necessary details that we require/request, then the requests will be denied, and will not be reviewed further. We do not have ample amount of hours to sit and watch an entire replay, be it for witch hunts, or failure to provide the necessary details.

To reiterate what has been requested two times now, please fill the request out in its entirety. This will allow for the staff members to review this request as efficiently as possible.

Failure to comply will result in this ban request being denied.

[Drink]

ENT moderation has never been good, but this is retarded. You guys do realize that you've collectively spent more than 30 minutes arguing about how it would take too much time to review this and issue a ban on a clear rule violation, right?

Clearly, preserving this community by removing the people that ruin it is not very high on the priority list. Personally, I think it's become an issue of pride, per usual with ENT moderation, because it doesn't make sense otherwise.

And lastly, I'm tired of ENT moderators hiding behind "this isn't a paid position, we're volunteers", etc. Just because you're volunteering your time to take a position of authority in a community doesn't mean we can't have expectations.

[Astros]

ENT moderation has never been good, but this is retarded. You guys do realize that you've collectively spent more than 30 minutes arguing about how it would take too much time to review this and issue a ban on a clear rule violation, right?

Clearly, preserving this community by removing the people that ruin it is not very high on the priority list. Personally, I think it's become an issue of pride, per usual with ENT moderation, because it doesn't make sense otherwise.

And lastly, I'm tired of ENT moderators hiding behind "this isn't a paid position, we're volunteers", etc. Just because you're volunteering your time to take a position of authority in a community doesn't mean we can't have expectations.

Do you have an inept ability to understand what is being asked of you?

1) You need to provide your username because mods don't want to deal with numerous ban requests due to people retaliating against one another to gain revenge. It's to reduce the amount of drama that can exist or arise here. What's the difficulty in providing your username? Were you in the game? If not, this ban request should be closed. If you can't type your username because you forgot how to spell, go back to elementary school.

2) And you've spent just as more, if not more time, arguing about why you shouldn't have to provide a username or timestamp than actually putting your username or timestamps so mods can go ahead and process this.

3) You have unrealistic expectations. When people volunteer, they aren't your on-call service. You don't have a right to complain about what moderators are doing when you haven't provided them with what they are asking you for in order for them to help you.

Quit being an argumentative child and either provide them with what they ask for or move on with your life.

Also, in response to why Rain processed the other ban request in which there wasn't a timestamp, there didn't have to be one because that was a game in which you could clearly see, via Centaur's score of 0-0-3 in a 30 minute game that it wouldn't have been difficult to see that he was purposely refusing to help. In the game you are reporting someone for, that was a 50+ minute game and the player had 12 assists (which was the 2nd highest on your team) so there is less of an indication he was "clearly ruining." It's called common sense.

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=141065&p=545651#p545651

You had no issue following the format in the above link but you somehow dispute why it is needed in this ban request. Are you in the game or not? Or are you simply just reporting random people to amuse yourself?

[FalenGa]

It would take you less than a minute to edit your post and add what's required. Yet you decide to push this argument out of control and waste everyone's time, including yours.

If you can't follow basic procedures, please don't bother posting a request again.

Denied.