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[DOTA] icu_dota@uswest

Postby Rashinator » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:22 am

Your Warcraft III username: cotton.candy
Violator's Warcraft III username: icu_dota
Game name or map name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #91
Stats page link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 771548.w3g
Rule player violated: throw
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): 39:29 he says "i buy rapier!" and rapier he buys. he goes straight in practically without backup, feeds it to slark as if they were friends (which they werent). Slark after that just rapes everyone. More than that, the pit solo feeds several times after that between 40-50 if u can be bothered to look.
Any further thoughts: we practically won the game, were 2 rax up, that rapier feed and even selling his items, so that he at the end of the game has blademail and bfury only (dont know exactly when he sold the items, im guessing when he bought the rapier) lost us the game 100%. weird game overall..

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Re: [DOTA] icu_dota@uswest

Postby child » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:52 am


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Re: [DOTA] icu_dota@uswest

Postby nabo. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:09 pm

@rashinator @child

Watch replay: pit does semi feed, but he does not feed intentionally and he is a semi-noob. He works with team, he uses ult at fountain to gank with team, he uses his skills in teamfights, he communicates on chat, etc.

If you really want to talk about feed looking by play and stats, my team had more feeders.

39:40, after two rax, pit says:
(39:08 / Allied) ICU_DOTA: games go to u void
(39:29 / Allied) ICU_DOTA: ill buy denvine

Pit does not sell all items, he just sells his vanguard to make up gold for divine.

OP responses:
(39:59 / Allied) cotton.candy: zomg
(40:00 / Allied) cotton.candy: rapier
(40:05 / Allied) cotton.candy: i want it
(40:11 / Allied) cotton.candy: now they get rapier and win

brown seems to be afk at 40.

at 40:30 OP ults in across river alone, gets ganked by my team, pit comes to help and also dies = lost divine. Going in without void wasnt a smart move. Whether pit took mirana cuz she afk and he wanted her dead, i do not know. The point here is that there was a wrong decision which also lead to pit's death = does not look intentional suicide.

Pit does look like he bought rapier for a huge risk, but it is also true u guys had two raxes. Whether he wanted to intentionally feed it, is not clear. He does say "that was funny", but seems quite an ambiguous statement.

At 42, void could have killed slark and got rapier, but he missed his ult and died instead = void's fail.

At 42:59 he tries to ult gank bottom so u guys can may b push bot and finish, but teammate died while he was ulting and pit ends up tping alone = 1v1 bot lane situation against yellow = pit loses = not feed, hard to run against shive, double stun, fire slow with only root and used up ult as pit.

46:50 = pit runs in an suicides.

47:20 fail to defend bottom with a dead pit and afk mirana.

Overall, instead of the rapier, I believe the game loss was more due to brown's afk.

Since u and brown are friends, I wont ban brown for afk.

I did tell you to report pit if you thought he was feeding after the game. Thank you for report, but I only saw one clear instance of pit feeding after 39 min. If you think otherwise, explain to me via PM or provide me other time stamps before 39 min.

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Re: [DOTA] icu_dota@uswest

Postby child » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:49 pm

@nabo. wasn't implying u shoulda kicked him in game or anything at all. you definitely shouldn't have. I didn't really watch the replay, only on 8x, but with a score of 4/13/18 and seeing him around team fighting a lot its clear he was trying hard to help scourge the vast majority of the game. I agree 100% that it could be viewed as him taking a risk, and even if he meant to feed the divine it wasn't clear from the gameplay especially if u were actually in the game. Once he lost divine game was over anyways pretty much it seems

Only reason I commented is because this guy is just one of those asshole ruiners who if he doesnt like how his team is acting / playing he will do troll/ruiner things like buying divine or ramboing solo and make it look legit or like he is just a noob so to avoid coming off as clearly throwing.

but i played with him several times... usually his bullshit is not legit and he isn't rly that noob. Yeah he technically usually follows the rules when he does stuff like this, but from experience i know this dude means to ruin games fairly often. I've seen so many of his type I know exactly the kinda shit they tend to pull... stuff that they can just hide behind the excuse of being bad

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Re: [DOTA] icu_dota@uswest

Postby nabo. » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:59 pm

Rashinator wrote:Sure i agree with you. Mirana told me she had to leave, sure it affected the game but without the rapier and pit dying solo at the end game, the game would be different. Intentional feed is a vague term. Rarely do people feed intentionally, he fed due to hos own stupidity and lack of interest in listening to the team. Feel like his play should be punished at least symbolically, he didnt want to win, period.


nabo. wrote:Ok, he had plentiful plays playing together with the team throughout the game. Rapier was partially the boost dps we got, but really even without it, we were able to kill u guys (as shown by the plays where u guys did die).

As for refusal to listen: give me replay times and ill review again. I think it was more of the fact tat none on the team actually lead the group through chat commanding where to go or being constructive.

Intentional feed is usually visible. We dont ban a noob who feeds; we ban game ruiners who intentionally feeds. Being stupid or reckless or making multiple wrong decisions r partial definitions of someone being a "noob".
I assure u, i can find more reasons of feeding by facing in aggressively and die from my team. :D

Give me refusal to play replay times and ill ban. Not enough to ban for feeding.


Rashinator wrote:cant be bothered to do that haha. just the feeling you sometimes get when you play a nice game and one fhker screws it up. i get that feeling pretty rarely so that would be the cause of me reporting in the first place. i know that we would have won with him playing together with us the last 10 minutes. anyway thx for ur time and nvm bout the ban. just annoyed by him :)


@child ill remember pit's name for future reference!
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