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Re: Cavalry Apem Us/West Mher

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:16 am
by Erdnuss
13:12 He tped bot
-> How is this a proof that he's hacking ?
14:28 Backed after the creeps were killed and Uses Ulti before Bara is reaching but he had vision before.

These incidents don't prove anything.

Re: Cavalry Apem Us/West Mher

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:08 pm
by Cat_Fact
SDKev858 (SB) is basing the argument that Cavalry (Razor) MH due to the battle at 17:00 replay clock.

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Above: We can see above that SB first appear at 17:00 on the replay clock.

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Above: SB immediately disappear. Making his appearance quite difficult to notice on the mini map. Impossible to notice on screen, if razor is center in the middle of Cavalry's screen. This is that they would not even be in the same screen then.

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Above: Sb reappear and disappeared faster than the first appearance. Just look at the difference in elapsed time. He did disappeared again.

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Above: Disappear again.

This occurred simultaneously with his final appearance as seen below. The second and final appearance should really count at one, due to how fast it happen.

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Above: The catch here is that before this final appearance, Razor already ulted. You should see just before SB appear, Razor momentary stopped. That was his ult. Exactly this moment, SB was still in the shadow. You can tell by doing split second pause and go. All this happen in about 1.5 second from SB first appearance on the mini map.


This is enough to said Cavalry MH. I don't know. I inconclusively say that he MH. I said this base also on the event at 5:06 and 15:42. I would argue that at 5:06, Razor sold his tp to get ring and hide from SB at tower. Why could he not tp to fountain? This is a odd waste of a tp. Of course, he could want to stay in lane. But then his hiding next to tower away from SB charge is too perfect right? At 15:42, did he tp bot to try to save Weaver knowing SB charge? Another incident with SB charge. Three total here.

What are your though?

Re: Cavalry Apem Us/West Mher

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:53 pm
by Hutzu
The game link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4149455

Will look at it now.

Re: Cavalry Apem Us/West Mher

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:40 pm
by Hutzu
Bara gets visible for a split second shortly before that too. Denying this case.